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yes it would,unless in a serious accident.
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yes it would,unless in a serious accident.
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ok,further than i thought,especially being towed with a tractor.still safe though.
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6 ton coming to a stop from 20 mph generates over 50tons of force on impact. So those straps would be rather tested beyond there limits.
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6 ton coming to a stop from 20 mph generates over 50tons of force on impact. So those straps would be rather tested beyond there limits.
you have got the frictional forces working for you,plus the mass of the vehicle keeping it weighed down.anything that is put under that much strain will fail.just like your argument on here.look at that prog about logging in n/w.usa.their loads often come adrift after an accident.are they in the wrong,or will you be telling them how to load and secure their loads??.:doh::boink::boink::caked::hysterically_laughi
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Truck driver speaking here with loads of experience moving machinery.straps are fitted properly nothing wrong with that.however if u went from hook on the trailer at an angle and tied it to the steel rim of tractor it would have been better.and maybe 1 on the body but the spped you did were ok for what you did.
Think if it needs a strap then it does.
Think if it needs a strap then it does.
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like you i have loads of experience on hgv driving,rope and sheet,containers,steel etc etc.but there are some on here who think that they know more than others,when they have no experience of this type of work.
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50 KPH tractors have solid rims so this wouldn't be possible on them. I prefer putting a cross in as its self tightening and it pulls evenly on both sides I've no doubt what I had was right I've seen tractors twice the size secure in exactly the same manor with the same straps with no problems. There's very few points where I could put chains on anyway and by securing the tyres to stop them from turning this is better than just pulling down on the chassis with chains IMHO
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Just delivered some more stuff to a sale with the disco. Big trailer on 3/4
Of a tonne of stuff on the trailer, straight up a wet muddy hilly field no problems at all didn't even struggle. These D3's are just brilliant offroad looking at a D4 now though
Of a tonne of stuff on the trailer, straight up a wet muddy hilly field no problems at all didn't even struggle. These D3's are just brilliant offroad
looking at a D4 now though 
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best waiting for the facelift model to come out prices will drop a little then!
prices will drop a little then!
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best waiting for the facelift model to come out
Ours is about dead now so needing to swap soon, looking at a approved used rather than new so it shouldn't make much difference
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Ours is about dead now so needing to swap soon, looking at a approved used rather than new so it shouldn't make much difference
Awww
well at least when you buy it you can bring it home using the "wrong" amount of ratchet straps on a trailer behind the tractor
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Awww
Oohh no it definately needs chaining down with 10 chains. Wide load signs, flashing beacons and an escort. Can't be too careful ...
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Maybe just to be on the safe side you should rent an Oshkosh and use even more chains than they recommend for tanks!
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Maybe just to be on the safe side you should rent an Oshkosh and use even more chains than they recommend for tanks!
remember there is no stretch with chains like there is with straps. And your photo there are lots of chains and ratchet binder holding that thing down.:emps1:
You sarcasm and keyboard warrior skills are shining through
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remember there is no stretch with chains like there is with straps. And your photo there are lots of chains and ratchet binder holding that thing down.:emps1:
You sarcasm and keyboard warrior skills are shining through
Three in total two on the front one on the rear…..might not have any give like a strap but a tank weighs about 60 tonnes
bit of a difference between that and an 8t tractor.Don't see one going over the top, down the front, up its exhaust, through the barrel, out the hatch and into the centre of the earth strapping it to the road either
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Three in total two on the front one on the rear ..might not have any give like a strap but a tank weighs about 60 tonnes
Don't see one going over the top, down the front, up its exhaust, through the barrel, out the hatch and into the centre of the earth strapping it to the road either
Well I can see 2 on the right rear, and the left should also have 2 also. So 4 tie down points on the rear and 2 on the front so 6 tie down points at minimum, can be seen:doh:
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Not sure, looks like they overlap and its just two large chains going on a loop on the rear
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/8896244070_77f7005796_z.jpg
Either way ..I'm sure that isn't enough nearly enough by your laws of the road
surely it should look like this to be properly secure going off what you think about tractors 
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Nope they are crossed and fastened to solid anchor points not through a ring so it can not slide side to side. Side movement is stopped, and forward, and backward movement is stopped. and if it did flip in accident that tank would still be fastened to the trailer.Not sure, looks like they overlap and its just two large chains going on a loop on the rear
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5454/8896244070_77f7005796_z.jpg
Either way ..I'm sure that isn't enough nearly enough by your laws of the road
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Well they only travel at 20mph down the M6 yet somehow Eddie stobart trucks manage to hit them as they go over the hill into lancaster :doh:
