Anyone else got snow? ❄️

Quite a lot up here in Yorkshire.

Been out doing side missions this morning, pulling a few cars and giving stranded walkers a lift to Tesco

Rain, rain and more rain here… and a 90 with a dodgy injector pump so it’s staying out for now!

Late last night it was well white here in Pembrokeshire, all gone today and raining again.

Basking in the lovely blue sky in the far North of Scotland

Plenty of snow about but not enough to warrent the big coat yet.

SteveMarquis said:

Basking in the lovely blue sky in the far North of Scotland

Plenty of snow about but not enough to warrent the big coat yet.

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Standard summers day there

s8ndst0rm said:

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Quite a lot up here in Yorkshire.

Been out doing side missions this morning, pulling a few cars and giving stranded walkers a lift to Tesco

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What do you use to tow folks out and how do you strap things together. I'm pretty good on the slippery stuff (rally driving years ago) but not very experienced at pulling vehicles.

It's probably something I should apply myself too as my '94 200TDi/R380 Tith has a 1.6 transfer box giving a fair bit of grunt for a gentle pull out and it would be great to help but I want to avoid flying hooks etc.

We only had an inch. Rain killed it.

SteveMarquis said:

What do you use to tow folks out and how do you strap things together. I'm pretty good on the slippery stuff (rally driving years ago) but not very experienced at pulling vehicles.

It's probably something I should apply myself too as my '94 200TDi/R380 Tith has a 1.6 transfer box giving a fair bit of grunt for a gentle pull out and it would be great to help but I want to avoid flying hooks etc.

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Guy I helped had a rope on him and I just put it around one of the rear bars. Didn’t have to take him far and seemed to work

Strange phenomena in Ruthin that I've not seen before. Pretty thick snow everywhere for miles, but when you're on the hills looking down into Ruthin its an island of green surrounded by white. The snow won't stick.

Cocaine little bit of the white stuff basked Manchester.

SteveMarquis said:

What do you use to tow folks out and how do you strap things together. I'm pretty good on the slippery stuff (rally driving years ago) but not very experienced at pulling vehicles.

It's probably something I should apply myself too as my '94 200TDi/R380 Tith has a 1.6 transfer box giving a fair bit of grunt for a gentle pull out and it would be great to help but I want to avoid flying hooks etc.

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It's fraught with problems to be fair.
With regards to equipment, on your car you need tow points, something solidly attached to the chassis, a jate ring or tow ring/ball solidly attached to the bumper/dumb irons.
I'm not a fan of using the tow ball on the back of the car, jate rings are (IMHO) a much better option.
The key is to ensure that the tow point on your car is solid and it's fixed to something solid, not a rusty chassis or rear cross member.

A 10M long, 4 ton endless roundsling would be ideal as they can be fixed and used in a variety of configurations.


To attach to your car either a 5/8", 3.25T 'Bow' shackle or a soft shackle.
To attach to the load I would use a 2 ton duplex strap


The strop can be past around something solid on the car you are pulling out (the load), the sling can pass through the eyes of the strop and then attach to your car using the shackle.
How you attach your sling will define the distance you are from the load. 5M (max) or 2.5M with the sling folded in half.

Both the sling and the strop will not break instead they will rip bits off the load or your car, it's therefore important that you connect both ends to something 'solid' and be aware of how much load you are applying.
Don't snatch, take up the tension and then apply a gentle pull. Nothing sudden.
Make sure no one is between the load and you. Pull in straight lines.

Some say you should always let the "customer" attach the rope to his car but I always have a conversation first along the lines of, "If this pull damages your car in any way I am not liable" ...
I have refused to do some as there was nowhere to attach the strap to and the car was well stuck in the mud.

These days I have a winch which makes life 50 Million times easier.

We are at 1500m, and the snow/rain line was at 1700ish most of the day. Got lower overnight, so woke up to this.
For reference, peaks opposite are 3000, ridge on the right climbs from 2000 to 3000.

I'm little curious, if a good Samaritan does cause damage to towing a vehicle out of snow. What do insurance do for claim for the damage. My guess the owners fault, for not being able to anticipate the problem first and not having rescue services. If you know your route is servere, enough to be rescued on heavily snow regions you prepare. I admire people who offer aide with proper vehicles in severe conditions, but I feel they should be registered as secondary road rescue.

Pretty sure it's you call a pro recovery truck to pull you out of a hedge, any additional damage done during the recovery is on you.
Should be no different if a passer-by stops to help in their landy

I think you do have to be negligent and reckless to become liable.
If in the act of being a good Samaritan the car is damaged as (for example) the front wing was bent away as it was embedded in a tree then you are not liable.
If however you attach your strop to the radiator/oil cooler mounting/pipes and rip all that out, or attach it to the rear bumper and pull half the rear bodywork off as you recklessly tried to 'jerk the car free, then that would be negligence on your part and you are liable to be sued for damages.

Would it be a willing acceptance of risk on both parties if you undertook a tow out unless the stuck party signed a disclaimer? And what qualifications did the person trying to help have? What insurance to undertake the activity was in place? What if a third party was injured? Then who is liable? Lots of questions to consider…