All I wanted to do was Paint the Rear Cross Member!

Dan_Trials · Jun 5, 2013

discomania said:
Ah I see! I thought it looked totally different from the first set of pictures.
So if I want a gearbox to look that clean I need to let it sit outside for 12 months?

It would make it appear to look clean if a picture is taken with a phone in poor lighting conditions!

discomania said:
Almost guarantee they will stock it, if not have a word with them and ask what the local fishermen use to protect their boats. Judging from the above picture their boats and your LR see about the same amount of salt water!

Haha! Yeah they are bound to stock something similar I'm sure.

trax said:
See the Galvafroid. As far as i know it only works if it is directly painted onto the metal, else it won't sacrifice itself. So you can't use kurust or anything else first.

I'm not sure what your doing with it at work.

Ah now that's an interesting point. Would this mean there's no need to use Kurust first? Or should I use Kurust and some thing else instead of Galvafroid?

At work we use it on bare metal right enough, can be anything from a cut bolt to a cleaned up and modified RSJ (steel framed building extention etc). I notice it seems to etch a bit too so this explains a lot, thanks.

trax · Jun 6, 2013

Dan_Trials said:
It would make it appear to look clean if a picture is taken with a phone in poor lighting conditions!

Haha! Yeah they are bound to stock something similar I'm sure.

Ah now that's an interesting point. Would this mean there's no need to use Kurust first? Or should I use Kurust and some thing else instead of Galvafroid?

At work we use it on bare metal right enough, can be anything from a cut bolt to a cleaned up and modified RSJ (steel framed building extention etc). I notice it seems to etch a bit too so this explains a lot, thanks.

Have a research but I think wirebrushing it right back to clean metal, then a phosphoric acid wash beforehand to 'cure' any left rust, wash off, then galva is alright.

Phosphoric acid is the stuff that converts rust to the black ferric phosphate.

To be honest mate, i don't know if i'd bother. You can get a chassis dipped and galved for 250ish. Plus you are only protecting the outside, it will still rust from the inside.

Saying that if you are doing it, then you can buy 5lt of phos acid for about 20quid and that should do the entire chassis.

let us know how you get on

Dan_Trials · Jun 7, 2013

See getting it galved, being on an island it would cost about £250 on carriage then what ever the cost of the galv would be. Although I can get it done through work so the actual galvanizing part of it would be a bit cheaper the carriage would still be a killer. Either way it's not really worth it anyway.

I know it will be fekked again in 5 years or so and probably need a few repairs before that but just thinking since I have it stripped might aswell paint the whole lot with something decent.

I asked at the fisherman's coop about Chromate primer and got the impression he'd never heard of it. His suggestion was zinc phosphate primer or red oxide (which is nothing like it used to be!). So think I'll just clean it best I can and slap on Galvafroid since I can get it at trade price and then a load of chassis paint.

On the subject of progress, not been a great deal but have decided to just basically do big ass patches rather than cutting out a whole panel and making a new one since it's not worth the extra time it would take. Plus an extremely tempting project has come up nice and cheap so need to get this one out!

Thor1950 · Jun 7, 2013

Dan_Trials said:
See getting it galved, being on an island it would cost about £250 on carriage then what ever the cost of the galv would be. Although I can get it done through work so the actual galvanizing part of it would be a bit cheaper the carriage would still be a killer. Either way it's not really worth it anyway.

I know it will be fekked again in 5 years or so and probably need a few repairs before that but just thinking since I have it stripped might aswell paint the whole lot with something decent.

I asked at the fisherman's coop about Chromate primer and got the impression he'd never heard of it. His suggestion was zinc phosphate primer or red oxide (which is nothing like it used to be!). So think I'll just clean it best I can and slap on Galvafroid since I can get it at trade price and then a load of chassis paint.

On the subject of progress, not been a great deal but have decided to just basically do big ass patches rather than cutting out a whole panel and making a new one since it's not worth the extra time it would take. Plus an extremely tempting project has come up nice and cheap so need to get this one out!

lots of zinc Chromate primer out there rustoleum makes it in red. search will get you lots of info, good stuff

Dan_Trials · Jun 7, 2013

Thor1950 said:
lots of zinc Chromate primer out there rustoleum makes it in red. search will get you lots of info, good stuff

Yah but it's getting it from the mainland to where I live, some companies just flat out refuse to send here, others charge silly massive amounts. I'll have a search about tomorrow but if it doesn't happen no biggie, not going to get caught up in it.

Thor1950 · Jun 7, 2013

Dan_Trials said:
Yah but it's getting it from the mainland to where I live, some companies just flat out refuse to send here, others charge silly massive amounts. I'll have a search about tomorrow but if it doesn't happen no biggie, not going to get caught up in it.

Surley there has to be some other brand of the same paint available to you

lorri789 · Jun 9, 2013

A great skill you have there. I would have been thinking about a noo chassis too! Well done, have a cigar.

Jason2 · Jun 9, 2013

Nice welding matey

Dan_Trials · Jun 9, 2013

Thor1950 said:
Surley there has to be some other brand of the same paint available to you

Nah, as I detailed above suggested alternatives are Zinc Phosphate or Red Oxide. Only other place here has only Galvafroid or Hammerite.

lorri789 said:
A great skill you have there. I would have been thinking about a noo chassis too! Well done, have a cigar.

Jason2 said:
Nice welding matey

Thanks guys!

Dan_Trials · Aug 3, 2013

Been a bit lacking in motivation recently and had a few other things taking away my time. My amazing girl friend bought me this for my birthday:

So I built a decent house for it to live in and a proper work bench:

This also meant yet another re-organization of the garage:

I also put the chassis on the rotisserie so I could spin it around when I get bored:

Eventually I started getting stuff done:

Now on to the other side!

Just need to keep the motivation going...

TheJoker · Aug 4, 2013

I love your determination to use what you've got and not to just buy a new frame. Good work. Hope you can stay motivated. :cool2:

wirral_series2a · Aug 4, 2013

Next phase is to teach the girlfriend to weld !

Cracking welding/rebuilding of your chassis btw

irmscher · Aug 4, 2013

some good work going on there

Dan_Trials · Aug 4, 2013

Thanks guys, means a lot to get the encouragement! Motivation is coming back, made a start on chopping out the drivers side last night.

andrewblueboy · Aug 4, 2013

some great welding skills you have, following this with intrest

Tenz · Aug 4, 2013

Well done mate looks a proper job ,im currently rebuilding mine and i find it hard to get motivated sometimes but you get a real sense of achievement when you do get on it .

Jamespepperpot · Aug 4, 2013

With all that rust, how was it still standing upright?!?!

flat · Aug 5, 2013

Only just seen these thread, just read the lot. Kudos.

That is an epic chassis weld! Top job!

Billy B · Aug 5, 2013

Just had a read from the start, it snowballed a bit didnt it!!, Top work though, cracking welding ( are you a pro?)

Keep the pics coming

Dan_Trials · Aug 5, 2013

andrewblueboy said:
some great welding skills you have, following this with intrest

Thank you, will try keep it up dated regularly.

Tenz said:
Well done mate looks a proper job ,im currently rebuilding mine and i find it hard to get motivated sometimes but you get a real sense of achievement when you do get on it .

Thanks. You got a thread for your's? Yeah it can be hard to get motivated, but like you say once you get over that hurdle it is satisfying.

Jamespepperpot said:
With all that rust, how was it still standing upright?!?!

Yeah I know haha!

flat said:
Only just seen these thread, just read the lot. Kudos.

That is an epic chassis weld! Top job!

Haha, thank you! Yeah I guess it's bigger than your average MOT prep!

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