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Datatek · Feb 22, 2011

wammers said:
I have no objection to what we joined "The European free trade area". Were import tariffs were removed to make trading fairer. But this united states of Europe that we now seem to be part of, was NOT voted for by the British people. It was government driven by there paymasters big business that got us involved in that. I seem to recall us fighting several wars with large loss of British life to prevent Frogs and Krauts from ruling us. Then the politicians had us to them on a plate. Disgusting you could not make it up. But then again we do have a Kraut royal family.

Right on

The free trade area comprising the Scandanavian countries and the Commonwealth that preceeded the EU was a much better idea, but it has allowed me to abandon the sinking ship that is the UK and live in France.

wammers · Feb 22, 2011

Datatek said:
Right on The free trade area comprising the Scandanavian countries and the Commonwealth that preceeded the EU was a much better idea, but it has allowed me to abandon the sinking ship that is the UK and live in France.

It is and always has been a French benevolent fund. Don't know off hand how many countries are in it now, twenty odd i would think. But a fifth of the agricultural budget paid into by all the countries is spent in one country, France.
Just so that some froggy farmer can totally unprofitably, make twenty cheeses a year from his flock of thrity goats. His living costs being paid for by EU grants.

Datatek · Feb 22, 2011

wammers said:
It is and always has been a French benevolent fund. Don't know off hand how many countries are in it now, twenty odd i would think. But a fifth of the agricultural budget paid into by all the countries is spent in one country, France.
Just so that some froggy farmer can totally unprofitably, make twenty cheeses a year from his flock of thrity goats. His living costs being paid for by EU grants.

Whats a thrity goat

I agree, but UK farmers have done pretty well out of it too according to my farming mate, I'm thinking of set aside in particular.

wammers · Feb 22, 2011

Datatek said:
Whats a thrity goat I agree, but UK farmers have done pretty well out of it too according to my farming mate, I'm thinking of set aside in particular.

Yeah you are correct, all these poor hill farmers struggling to make ends meet rounding their sheep up with £8,000.00 quads and £50,000.00 tractors does get you thinking. Pity there's not a common old retired mechanics fund, that's what i say. There was a programme on long ago about a French farmer who was reputedly paid £40,000.00 a year not to grow Wheat. Think when the film crew visited him he had a cow and a few goats and his farm was a small holding on the side of an hill. So there was a bit of a fiddle going on there one would suspect. Then there was the butter and meat mountains were they decided instead of reducing the prices to us who had paid the farmers to create the surplus. They sold it to the Russians for 3 or 4 pence a pound. Bloody crazy.

kooky_guy · Feb 22, 2011

wammers said:
Yeah you are correct, all these poor hill farmers struggling to make ends meet rounding their sheep up with £8,000.00 quads and £50,000.00 tractors does get you thinking. Pity there's not a common old retired mechanics fund, that's what i say. There was a programme on long ago about a French farmer who was reputedly paid £40,000.00 a year not to grow Wheat. Think when the film crew visited him he had a cow and a few goats and his farm was a small holding on the side of an hill. So there was a bit of a fiddle going on there one would suspect. Then there was the butter and meat mountains were they decided instead of reducing the prices to us who had paid the farmers to create the surplus. They sold it to the Russians for 3 or 4 pence a pound. Bloody crazy.

We have friends who are sheep farmers in Wales and I think they would very much disagree with that! They certainly aren't rich by any standards and the amount of sheer hard work involved is just incredible.

Set aside subsidies in the UK were scrapped ages ago too, I thought.

wammers · Feb 22, 2011

kooky_guy said:
We have friends who are sheep farmers in Wales and I think they would very much disagree with that! They certainly aren't rich by any standards and the amount of sheer hard work involved is just incredible.

Set aside subsidies in the UK were scrapped ages ago too, I thought.

To be honest don't know much about it. And i am sure your friends work very hard. Farming is not a job i would like to do. But around here it is not uncommon to see farmers with pretty small farms driving around in their latest new tractor or Range Rover. Either some sorts of farming are VERY profitable or they know which forms to fill in. That is all i can say.

Datatek · Feb 22, 2011

Set aside is finished, but it paid well for quite some time.

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