200tdi 3 door Disco's (& other ramblings...) also '86 Ninety 200tdi hybrid...
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how quick a year passes
dug up the 'L' reg Disco today, it's not moved for a while & with a charged battery it started on the second compression! I love the 200tdi engine
obviously not taking a Team photo would have been rude
unfortuntely I might be using the 'L' reg as panel & trim donor for 'MUT' and engine donor for the 2.5d Ninety
Rich.
how quick a year passes
dug up the 'L' reg Disco today, it's not moved for a while & with a charged battery it started on the second compression! I love the 200tdi engine
obviously not taking a Team photo would have been rude
unfortuntely I might be using the 'L' reg as panel & trim donor for 'MUT' and engine donor for the 2.5d Ninety
Rich.
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just realised, the 'L' reg Disco looks cleaner than the 'J' reg, the 'L' reg was in the garden for the last how many years and the 'J' reg in the yard
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the Ninety never had great brake pedal feel so I bought a new Master-cylinder & flexi-hoses when we first had it (2 years ago), naturally I've not had the time & interest to fit them yet
the origonal (if origonal on a REME jigsaw?) front calipers are in a bit of a state, passed mot twice with us but look like they'd be due for retirement.....
anyway, I'd been thinking of a pair of new / reconditioned calipers and noticed Bigred selling the correct type on ebay as 'shop-soiled' for £23 & £29 each (why the price difference between sides I have no idea) so with a small discount @ £50.97 the pair posted
maybe I'll have time to fit these calipers / flexi's & m/cylinder this weekend for a bit of an improvement
might fit the new rear & pre-loved front Bilstein B6 dampers also but the Armstrong's currently in use work well...
Rich.
the origonal (if origonal on a REME jigsaw?) front calipers are in a bit of a state, passed mot twice with us but look like they'd be due for retirement.....
anyway, I'd been thinking of a pair of new / reconditioned calipers and noticed Bigred selling the correct type on ebay as 'shop-soiled' for £23 & £29 each (why the price difference between sides I have no idea
) so with a small discount @ £50.97 the pair posted
maybe I'll have time to fit these calipers / flexi's & m/cylinder this weekend for a bit of an improvement
might fit the new rear & pre-loved front Bilstein B6 dampers also but the Armstrong's currently in use work well...
Rich.
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actually done a thing (or two
new front calipers / pads / stainless braided flexi's and master cylinder (genuine LR) going on
both fronts done
naturally both sides needed new metal brakepipes making so time wasted diggin for tooling & fittings
drivers caliper looks a state, definately time to replace
something looked suspect...
OOPS
the previous owner fitted polybushes to the radius arms (~6 years ago?) and theyre degrading so will search for some genuine LR rubber bushes
the Powerhouse 2.5 Litres of noise (but little go) - time for the long awaited 200tdi
Rich.
new front calipers / pads / stainless braided flexi's and master cylinder (genuine LR) going on
both fronts done
naturally both sides needed new metal brakepipes making so time wasted diggin for tooling & fittings
drivers caliper looks a state, definately time to replace
something looked suspect...
OOPS
the previous owner fitted polybushes to the radius arms (~6 years ago?) and theyre degrading so will search for some genuine LR rubber bushes
the Powerhouse
2.5 Litres of noise (but little go) - time for the long awaited 200tdi Rich.
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actually done a thing (or two
new front calipers / pads / stainless braided flexi's and master cylinder (genuine LR) going on
both fronts done
naturally both sides needed new metal brakepipes making so time wasted diggin for tooling & fittings
drivers caliper looks a state, definately time to replace
something looked suspect...
OOPS
the previous owner fitted polybushes to the radius arms (~6 years ago?) and theyre degrading so will search for some genuine LR rubber bushes
the Powerhouse
Rich.
as an update, posted late but followed-on from the above....
Went for a testdrive to assess & bed the new pads.....
engine shat the fanbelt
but, the brakes work
this engine has eaten a few fanbelts since we've had it, pulleys look aligned and evrything runs freely
no problem as theres a different motor going in
Rich.
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have looked for causes, worn bearings and miss-alignment and all seems good
I've had a new pair to go on one of my Disco's for years, guaranteed to need hard-pipes making but otherwise an easy job
- might be worth getting new caliper to hub bolts while you're at itRich.
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Ninety is on daily comute duties so 8 miles a day (& with the 2.5D thats far enough!)
fixed the fuel gauge on the Ninety, tried a new genuine LR sender & nothing but wiggled the wires on back of the cluster
also, realised I'm a milloinare as it's 3/4 full
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fixed the fuel gauge on the Ninety, tried a new genuine LR sender & nothing but wiggled the wires on back of the cluster
also, realised I'm a milloinare as it's 3/4 full
Rich.
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nothing serious to report, driven the Ninety a few times...
bought one of those posh 'Slickshift' quickshift thinggies
https://www.onlinegearboxparts.com/product/defender-lt77-r380-slickshift-inc-td5-bundle
I must confess that if my mrs could reach first / reverse then the standard setup would have stayed
but...
she requested it
now it's done theres some re-learning to do - mostly the position of gears and not reaching for the wipermotor when selecting reverse (Lt77 box)
the expensive kit
longer pivot-distance on new shifter.
the 'spacer' fitted, I used Locktite 'Flange Sealer' to stop leaks.
assembled.
criticism time, this kit was not cheap but for the sake of a few pennies Syncrogearboxes could have thrown in an M10 nyloc nut / washer to attach the gearstick
Rich.
bought one of those posh 'Slickshift' quickshift thinggies
https://www.onlinegearboxparts.com/product/defender-lt77-r380-slickshift-inc-td5-bundle
I must confess that if my mrs could reach first / reverse then the standard setup would have stayed
but...
she requested it
now it's done theres some re-learning to do - mostly the position of gears and not reaching for the wipermotor when selecting reverse (Lt77 box)
the expensive kit
longer pivot-distance on new shifter.
the 'spacer' fitted, I used Locktite 'Flange Sealer' to stop leaks.
assembled.
criticism time, this kit was not cheap but for the sake of a few pennies Syncrogearboxes could have thrown in an M10 nyloc nut / washer to attach the gearstick
Rich.
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collected a 200tdi Defender engine today.
fits in the Ninety easily (but in the wrong end
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very complete with wiring & fuel pipework...
even has the (fiberglass??) turbo heatshield
something I don't think I've ever seen before!will give it a degrease & jetwash tomorrow then assess any repairs / inspect the clutch etc.
Rich.
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have more bits to fit the Ninety, I already had new rear dampers so bought fronts, turrets and steering-damper to complete the set. also some 200tdi parts like cambelt kit / waterpump / hoses and throttle cable as prep for the tdi conversion
subject of the tdi...
setup for test running...
started easily & idled so ready for prep-work & servicing.
Rich.
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more un-progress....
found a seller on Ebay that listed genuie LR gearknobs, bought one on 30th December....
heard nothing so I messaged them a few days ago to be told that LR had no stock & no date of availability why did the seller (landroversparesuk -
Duckworth Jaguar Land Rover) take an order & list a number of these available if there was no stock?
anyway...
arrived today so maybe they actually ordered it AFTER my message
and yes, it is for the R380 whereas I have LT77 gearbox (different reverse gear position) but I wanted a genuine 'knob......
bought a D1 pas steering-box.
4-bolt fit same as the Ninety but has the pitman-arm that uses a trackrod-end as opposed to the Ninety's arm with the built-in balljoint - do I swap them over (are pitman-arms interchangable??) or tun with a Disco type track-rod & make a mount for the Ninety's steering-damper
Rich.
found a seller on Ebay that listed genuie LR gearknobs, bought one on 30th December....
heard nothing so I messaged them a few days ago to be told that LR had no stock & no date of availability
why did the seller (landroversparesuk - Duckworth Jaguar Land Rover) take an order & list a number of these available if there was no stock?
anyway...
arrived today so maybe they actually ordered it AFTER my message
and yes, it is for the R380 whereas I have LT77 gearbox (different reverse gear position) but I wanted a genuine 'knob......
bought a D1 pas steering-box.
4-bolt fit same as the Ninety but has the pitman-arm that uses a trackrod-end as opposed to the Ninety's arm with the built-in balljoint - do I swap them over (are pitman-arms interchangable??) or tun with a Disco type track-rod & make a mount for the Ninety's steering-damper
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have more bits to fit the Ninety, I already had new rear dampers so bought fronts, turrets and steering-damper to complete the set. also some 200tdi parts like cambelt kit / waterpump / hoses and throttle cable as prep for the tdi conversion
subject of the tdi...
setup for test running...
started easily & idled so ready for prep-work & servicing.
Rich.
Matching jack & axles stands how posh
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couldn't find Defender 200tdi intercooler pipes so bought new from JLR Heratage (or whoever)
top intercooler metal pipe & fuel return pipe from 200tdi type filter to fuel tank, the engine I have is from a lwb and we have a Ninety - so the fuel pipe is a touch long
it's only money
Rich.
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top intercooler metal pipe & fuel return pipe from 200tdi type filter to fuel tank, the engine I have is from a lwb and we have a Ninety - so the fuel pipe is a touch long
it's only money
Rich.
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the Ninety has no glowplug relay & relies on a 'half' position on the ignition switch, I'm liking poshness so wanted a timed glowplug circuit and remembered something from the murky past about a D1 200tdi glowplug relay & underbonnet loom someware in the garage
took a few days thinking & diggin but found the bastard
now to decipher the loom diagrams for the 4 smaller wires (6 pin relay) then decide on where it'll live underbonnet etc.
more faffin to follow.
Rich.
took a few days thinking & diggin but found the bastard
now to decipher the loom diagrams for the 4 smaller wires (6 pin relay) then decide on where it'll live underbonnet etc.
more faffin to follow.
Rich.
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been thinking of an electronic speedo conversion for the Ninety, it' 'origonal' speedo is in km (as an ex-Army Landy) and interesting when accuracy is concerned
theres a few manufacturers of programmable electronic speedometers like Stack & VDO and also unbranded on ebay etc.
subject of ebay, looked @ VDO as they're similar to the origonal 80's LR items and there was one advertised as a tachometer (but photos of a speedo) for sensible money so some bidding followed
delivered today and it's a speedo so happy-days
the millage may be resetable, will have a read of the distructions
came mounted in a dashtop 'pod' and pre-wired, live / earth & signal with the live & earth bridged to the illumination, I'll probably keep this as such (K.I.S.S.)
p/number etc. the mount-rings are available seperately and Merlin Motorsport have stock https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/spare-mounting-ring-for-80mm-vdo-gauges-800005005
this speedo is programmable and accepts various pulse inputs (& 12 or 24v power)
distrctions are online
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/files/transfer/technical/doc/vdo_speedo_instructions.pdf
I'm thinking of fitting a 'hall-effect' sensor in place of the old speedo-cable on the transfer box to generate the vss
ALSO...
I think this speedo supports a vss output so options for fitting cruise-control
more on the joblist
Rich.
theres a few manufacturers of programmable electronic speedometers like Stack & VDO and also unbranded on ebay etc.
subject of ebay, looked @ VDO as they're similar to the origonal 80's LR items and there was one advertised as a tachometer (but photos of a speedo) for sensible money so some bidding followed
delivered today and it's a speedo so happy-days
the millage may be resetable, will have a read of the distructions
came mounted in a dashtop 'pod' and pre-wired, live / earth & signal with the live & earth bridged to the illumination, I'll probably keep this as such (K.I.S.S.)
p/number etc. the mount-rings are available seperately and Merlin Motorsport have stock https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p/spare-mounting-ring-for-80mm-vdo-gauges-800005005
this speedo is programmable and accepts various pulse inputs (& 12 or 24v power)
distrctions are online
https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/files/transfer/technical/doc/vdo_speedo_instructions.pdf
I'm thinking of fitting a 'hall-effect' sensor in place of the old speedo-cable on the transfer box to generate the vss
ALSO...
I think this speedo supports a vss output so options for fitting cruise-control
more on the joblist
Rich.
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windeee today and a few trees in our garden looked sorta wobbly so out with the bowsaw...
one tree was a little loose in the ground and getting moved by the wind so secured with a strap & sling to the Ninety while I got brave with a ladder...
I'd already 'topped' (well, sorta) one tree, reversed the Ninety up to it & stood on it's roof to attack with the saw and this was the second victim.
the aftermath
loads of wood that I don't have a suitable fire to use in
maybe I'll get around to tidying theswamp garden this summer
Rich.
one tree was a little loose in the ground and getting moved by the wind so secured with a strap & sling to the Ninety while I got brave with a ladder...
I'd already 'topped' (well, sorta) one tree, reversed the Ninety up to it & stood on it's roof to attack with the saw
and this was the second victim.
the aftermath
loads of wood that I don't have a suitable fire to use in
maybe I'll get around to tidying the
Rich.
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re. the 200tdi engine conversion...
I've been looking for some oem type pipework to connect the intercooler and it seems that genuine def 200tdi parts are a premium
I'd found (& bought) the top pipe but looks like I'm making the lower one
on the plus side, I've found a nos airfilter - turbo hose so hopefully that'll fit / work & last a few years as I wasn't convinced on aftermarket quality
Rich.
I've been looking for some oem type pipework to connect the intercooler and it seems that genuine def 200tdi parts are a premium
couldn't find Defender 200tdi intercooler pipes so bought new from JLR Heratage (or whoever
top intercooler metal pipe & fuel return pipe from 200tdi type filter to fuel tank, the engine I have is from a lwb and we have a Ninety - so the fuel pipe is a touch long
it's only money
Rich.
I'd found (& bought) the top pipe but looks like I'm making the lower one
on the plus side, I've found a nos airfilter - turbo hose so hopefully that'll fit / work & last a few years as I wasn't convinced on aftermarket quality
Rich.
