P38A 2.5 diesel- want one but scared!

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When I was in the goldwing club, at rallies there used to be a trader guy that could paint plastics so it looked like wood.
Very nice it looked too.
 
Been fiddling with the RR in the evenings, checking stuff is working or not as the case may be. Had to change a bulb but every light works now.
Both leccy seats work and the heater parts too, not positive about that as it's sweltering hot ambient but I think it got hotter. It's fitted with 3 mods that I can find, reverse camera (bumper cam has a broken lens, works but rubbish image) Parrot hands free kit which works and wiring run from the battery, along the chassis top and pretty sure that's for the tin tent electrics as there's two sockets at the towbar.
The CD multi player in the boot doesn't work, display says no CD and the 6 disc cassette won't eject. It seems completely dead, no clicks or whirry noises at all, the handbook doesn't show a fuse for this. I decided to remove it this morning before the sun got up and someone has had it out before, bolts missing or loose. There's a big thing with speakers in it above the CD, Amp?? Think I saw that mentioned in the fuse list, will have to check that.
I've taken the CD changer apart to see why the cassette holder won't eject.
I don't know how they work but stripped it anyway, moving cogs and stuff for 1/2hr moved a disc which was in the 'play' part back into the removable cassette and out it popped!
CD was a copy of Jethro Tull, there was another 2 copies, snow patrol and Iggy Pop and 3 genuine CD'd, now that's what I call rock album 1,2 and 3.
I'm hoping that the copies have upset it and it'll work when reassembled, I can only hope:rolleyes:o_O.
 
The bit above the cd will be the amp and big subwoofer, the cd player will not be harmed by copys i have run copys in mine for 14 years, it sounds like there is no power to the cd changer,
i dont know why they have run extra wires to the tow sockets as there is a correct supply behind the light cluster ready.
 
brianp38dse said:
The bit above the cd will be the amp and big subwoofer, the cd player will not be harmed by copys i have run copys in mine for 14 years, it sounds like there is no power to the cd changer,
i dont know why they have run extra wires to the tow sockets as there is a correct supply behind the light cluster ready.
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There are two cables from the positive battery terminal, both with inline fuses which then split off just Infront of the fusebox and go to a couple of relays, one is yellow with a landrover oval on it and 'voltage sensitive relay' on it. The other relay is sort of a twin one, ,8 wires or something, not paid too much attention to it tbh. The bunch of wires are then sheathed in plastic tubing and run all the way to the back. I don't know tin tent stuff having never owned a tin tent but the VSR is a clue I'm sure?
Disconnected it from the battery now as it looked scruffy. I guess landrover would put standard towbar electrics at the rear but would they also put tin tent electrics there also? If they did then I guess a standard caravan kit has been installed by an electrician who was unaware.?
 
From all the info i have gleamed on here the twin socket electrics is there ready to hook on to, i have not had a reason to check mine just know they work:D
vsr sound correct to power the fridge while the car is running.
it was probable easier for the guy who wired it to do what he is used to, rather then inter fear with a p38 system
 
Flossie said:
There are two cables from the positive battery terminal, both with inline fuses which then split off just Infront of the fusebox and go to a couple of relays, one is yellow with a landrover oval on it and 'voltage sensitive relay' on it. The other relay is sort of a twin one, ,8 wires or something, not paid too much attention to it tbh. The bunch of wires are then sheathed in plastic tubing and run all the way to the back. I don't know tin tent stuff having never owned a tin tent but the VSR is a clue I'm sure?
Disconnected it from the battery now as it looked scruffy. I guess landrover would put standard towbar electrics at the rear but would they also put tin tent electrics there also? If they did then I guess a standard caravan kit has been installed by an electrician who was unaware.?
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Mine is the same. Factory fitted when first bought. The yellow relay is voltage sensitive so if the aux power pulls the battery too low then it cuts the power. The BECM is supposed to do the same thing. There must be a reason Land Rover ignored the built in wiring and put a dedicated parallel system in. Maybe the wiring was found to be suboptimal or didn't meet EU regs? Or maybe the voltage set-pointvin BECM was too low /high? Might be in a TSB in RAVE?
 
Grrrrrr said:
Mine is the same. Factory fitted when first bought. The yellow relay is voltage sensitive so if the aux power pulls the battery too low then it cuts the power. The BECM is supposed to do the same thing. There must be a reason Land Rover ignored the built in wiring and put a dedicated parallel system in. Maybe the wiring was found to be suboptimal or didn't meet EU regs? Or maybe the voltage set-pointvin BECM was too low /high? Might be in a TSB in RAVE?
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It's not factory I wouldn't have thought, wires tie wrapped to existing pipe work and the tails not cut off, waay too much cabling stuffed down behind the ECU engine bay.
Anyway...The CD multi changer now works perfectly, chuffed about that:):).
Only thing not working now apart from the Aircon is the sunroof. It worked on the initial viewing a couple of weeks ago but now it opens ok but has to be manually closed using the special key.
I need the nanocom for that to diagnose? Or is it something I can check without the nanocom. Electrical cleaner is due tomorrow so should be able to play with it once the obd port is tarted up a bit.
Hark at me! Didn't even known what an obd port was 2 weeks ago:cool:.:D
 
Grrrrrr said:
Mine is the same. Factory fitted when first bought. The yellow relay is voltage sensitive so if the aux power pulls the battery too low then it cuts the power. The BECM is supposed to do the same thing. There must be a reason Land Rover ignored the built in wiring and put a dedicated parallel system in. Maybe the wiring was found to be suboptimal or didn't meet EU regs? Or maybe the voltage set-pointvin BECM was too low /high? Might be in a TSB in RAVE?
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Has yours got 2 cheapy looking inline blade fuse holders?
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The larger relay was self tappered into the side of the box holding the ECU, the yellow VSR was stuck somewhere with double sided foam but has felled orf.
Looks bodgy to me.
 
Flossie said:
Been fiddling with the RR in the evenings, checking stuff is working or not as the case may be. Had to change a bulb but every light works now.
Both leccy seats work and the heater parts too, not positive about that as it's sweltering hot ambient but I think it got hotter. It's fitted with 3 mods that I can find, reverse camera (bumper cam has a broken lens, works but rubbish image) Parrot hands free kit which works and wiring run from the battery, along the chassis top and pretty sure that's for the tin tent electrics as there's two sockets at the towbar.
The CD multi player in the boot doesn't work, display says no CD and the 6 disc cassette won't eject. It seems completely dead, no clicks or whirry noises at all, the handbook doesn't show a fuse for this. I decided to remove it this morning before the sun got up and someone has had it out before, bolts missing or loose. There's a big thing with speakers in it above the CD, Amp?? Think I saw that mentioned in the fuse list, will have to check that.
I've taken the CD changer apart to see why the cassette holder won't eject.
I don't know how they work but stripped it anyway, moving cogs and stuff for 1/2hr moved a disc which was in the 'play' part back into the removable cassette and out it popped!
CD was a copy of Jethro Tull, there was another 2 copies, snow patrol and Iggy Pop and 3 genuine CD'd, now that's what I call rock album 1,2 and 3.
I'm hoping that the copies have upset it and it'll work when reassembled, I can only hope:rolleyes:o_O.
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Mine don't like copies:D
 
Flossie said:
It's not factory I wouldn't have thought, wires tie wrapped to existing pipe work and the tails not cut off, waay too much cabling stuffed down behind the ECU engine bay.
Anyway...The CD multi changer now works perfectly, chuffed about that:):).
Only thing not working now apart from the Aircon is the sunroof. It worked on the initial viewing a couple of weeks ago but now it opens ok but has to be manually closed using the special key.
I need the nanocom for that to diagnose? Or is it something I can check without the nanocom. Electrical cleaner is due tomorrow so should be able to play with it once the obd port is tarted up a bit.
Hark at me! Didn't even known what an obd port was 2 weeks ago:cool:.:D
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Do a search. I don't have a sunroof so don't tend to pay attention but I've got a niggly feeling something sometimes needs resetting after using the key. @tomcat59alan might know or, as a last resort, RTFM!
 
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