Graculus · 2025-01-12T17:36:24+0000

No the Voss connector is the compressed air connector, you can change the damper separately but at that age, I'd suggest a complete assembly, particularly as you say the airbag isn't great - but I'd check it first to confirm.

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T17:38:32+0000

kermit_rr said:
Just replaced passenger side drop link, came off easy enough but no special washer!! Obviously not seen when it was done last time not by me

It's gone on, can't be any worse than the old clanky one!!

Does the special Washer only go on the upper ball joint? RAVE seems to suggest so.

If so, What's the point? I can't see it being an alignment issue.

Do i need to buy a new one? They aren't obviously available so will need to find something approximate

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T17:42:52+0000

Graculus said:
No the Voss connector is the compressed air connector, you can change the damper separately but at that age, I'd suggest a complete assembly, particularly as you say the airbag isn't great - but I'd check it first to confirm.

Thank you. That's something for next weekend..

But..

I'm thinking.. i know it's expensive but wonder if I should take the parts cannon approach and buy 2 new complete units anyways? The bags will need doing at some point and it will save putting a knackered strut back so i can drive until the new one arrives.. then repeat removal...

I'll need to get alignment done afterwards, but it's that regular 4 wheel alignment, or castor alignment? Or both.

Graculus · 2025-01-12T17:48:38+0000

You'll need camber & toe checking and adjusting, any change in camber will affect toe. The camber adjustment is the top mount bolt positions.
I'd check the prices before you light the fuze on the parts cannon....

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T18:00:56+0000

Graculus said:
You'll need camber & toe checking and adjusting, any change in camber will affect toe. The camber adjustment is the top mount bolt positions.
I'd check the prices before you light the fuze on the parts cannon....

The variable damping complete assembly isn't cheap, but the copy is much cheaper.
OEM/genuine £460+vat
Proevo+ £300+vat
Presume both sides the same price

I expect the copy won't last as long as OEM, but will i keep the car that long to care? Really doubt it.

My issue is time is also money, i can replace all in one go. If it solves the issue then all well and good. If it doesn't, (struts not leaking) well i need new bags before too long anyways and the struts can be kept for refurb/sold etc

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T18:05:49+0000

Of course i need to check everything else in case it got missed on the MOT

Graculus · 2025-01-12T19:17:29+0000

Regardless of the longevity, will the copy perform as well as OEM?
And yes, do the checks, ideally the dampers also.

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T19:22:40+0000

Graculus said:
Regardless of the longevity, will the copy perform as well as OEM?
And yes, do the checks, ideally the dampers also.

Who knows!!
At the risk of asking a stupid question, why would u get a knock/clunk if the damper fails?

Graculus · 2025-01-12T19:25:27+0000

Empty or depressurised space in the damper, most likely on the rebound, but not always, allowing the piston enough free movement to give a 'slap' when it does meet some resistance.

marjon · 2025-01-12T20:45:56+0000

Graculus said:
Could well be the oil has escaped from the damper into the suspension airbag, the easiest way to check is to remove the assembly and tip it up to see if any oil comes out of the Voss connection point.

But they are 2 separate items.
The bag goes over the strut if the strut leaks the oil can’t get in the bag air side?

J

marjon · 2025-01-12T20:50:00+0000

kermit_rr said:
The variable damping complete assembly isn't cheap, but the copy is much cheaper.
OEM/genuine £460+vat
Proevo+ £300+vat
Presume both sides the same price

I expect the copy won't last as long as OEM, but will i keep the car that long to care? Really doubt it.

My issue is time is also money, i can replace all in one go. If it solves the issue then all well and good. If it doesn't, (struts not leaking) well i need new bags before too long anyways and the struts can be kept for refurb/sold etc

I have seen/heard of so called compatible copies look the same but don’t have the ADS.
So you lose function and can’t plug the wire in the top, so be careful.

J

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T20:54:48+0000

marjon said:
I have seen/heard of so called compatible copies look the same but don’t have the ADS.
So you lose function and can’t plug the wire in the top, so be careful.

J

Thanks.. looking on island they are advertised as active damping

kermit_rr · 2025-01-12T21:02:50+0000

marjon said:
But they are 2 separate items.
The bag goes over the strut if the strut leaks the oil can’t get in the bag air side?

J

If the bag goes over the strut then the strut must leak into the bag?

Not heard and this failure though I'm sure struts don't last forever

marjon · 2025-01-12T21:08:15+0000

kermit_rr said:
If the bag goes over the strut then the strut must leak into the bag?

Not heard and this failure though I'm sure struts don't last forever

The whole thing goes over the strut, no connection of fluids possible from what I can see.

J

Graculus · 2025-01-12T21:50:20+0000

marjon said:
But they are 2 separate items.
The bag goes over the strut if the strut leaks the oil can’t get in the bag air side?

J

It does, the attached may help you visualise the assembly.

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