phil540uk
Active Member
Wow! Tackling that on a pay and play is massively impressive - nice work!!
You're lucky you didn't snap your brake lines with that one.
Fingers crossed you'll get a decent answer from britpart, although I wouldn't be surprised if they have already seen this thread - quick google of afew key words and this thread is on the first page of hits!
You're lucky you didn't snap your brake lines with that one.
Fingers crossed you'll get a decent answer from britpart, although I wouldn't be surprised if they have already seen this thread - quick google of afew key words and this thread is on the first page of hits!
discomark10
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Im curious at why LR designed the front swivel set up like that, and not somthing like this?
cv axle in 1998 cherokee? - Jeep Cherokee Forum
cv axle in 1998 cherokee? - Jeep Cherokee Forum
GreenHornet
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I think the P38 axles have a better front end arrangement.
discomark10
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Ok Your right.. they are better! hmmmmmm, next question (probably see it coming) are they interchangeable with disco ones?
GreenHornet
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Better diffs as most are 4 pin. Perhaps it would be useful to see.....ummmmmm
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
If they have seen this thread then what the hell, not too fussed!
Just hope it comes good but if not no big trouble!
Yeah I think the disco 2 front axle would fit fairly easily, if not the hornet 4x4 could easily get conversion hockey sticks made, basically pin fitting at chassis like disco 1 and correct bush fitting at axle for disco 2.
That of course is the difference between bowler tomcat and wildcat, the latter uses disco 2 which is much stronger setup.
Might even look into it myself
Disco 2 front axle would be a NICE mod, but I would have diff issues (can't upgrade my ARBs to 24 spline centres because parts discontinued) so it would get rather expensive....
Just hope it comes good but if not no big trouble!
Yeah I think the disco 2 front axle would fit fairly easily, if not the hornet 4x4 could easily get conversion hockey sticks made, basically pin fitting at chassis like disco 1 and correct bush fitting at axle for disco 2.
That of course is the difference between bowler tomcat and wildcat, the latter uses disco 2 which is much stronger setup.
Might even look into it myself
Disco 2 front axle would be a NICE mod, but I would have diff issues (can't upgrade my ARBs to 24 spline centres because parts discontinued) so it would get rather expensive....
200tdi ayre
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If they have seen this thread then what the hell, not too fussed!
Just hope it comes good but if not no big trouble!
Yeah I think the disco 2 front axle would fit fairly easily, if not the hornet 4x4 could easily get conversion hockey sticks made, basically pin fitting at chassis like disco 1 and correct bush fitting at axle for disco 2.
That of course is the difference between bowler tomcat and wildcat, the latter uses disco 2 which is much stronger setup.
Might even look into it myself
Disco 2 front axle would be a NICE mod, but I would have diff issues (can't upgrade my ARBs to 24 spline centres because parts discontinued) so it would get rather expensive....
Disco 2 axles are wider too so better handling hence why comp safari/ wildcats ect use them
P38 axles have the best turning circle I read somewhere, someone has fitted a pair to a trialer for stronger axles / better turning circle, unsure on what the width difference is though
discomark10
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Yeah I think the disco 2 front axle would fit fairly easily, if not the hornet 4x4 could easily get conversion hockey sticks made, basically pin fitting at chassis like disco 1 and correct bush fitting at axle for disco 2.
That of course is the difference between bowler tomcat and wildcat, the latter uses disco 2 which is much stronger setup.
Might even look into it myself
Disco 2 front axle would be a NICE mod, but I would have diff issues (can't upgrade my ARBs to 24 spline centres because parts discontinued) so it would get rather expensive....
I agree, it would be a nice mod. I read somewhere that the diff is on the other side on the d2 from the p38 (not sure if its true or not)
You could just sell the lockers and get a set for the 24's?
discomark10
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D2's and P38's are 4.4 inch wider over D1's (according to Wikipedia)
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godzilla84
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I was reading about D2's having wider axles last night and wondered how hard it it would be to convert the cases to fit on a D1. Do the diffs line up and would that just make it a case of welding on the apropriate bracketry?? I know the rears have a watts linkage "wattever" one of those is (see what i did there
one of those is (see what i did there
discomark10
Well-Known Member
I was reading about D2's having wider axles last night and wondered how hard it it would be to convert the cases to fit on a D1. Do the diffs line up and would that just make it a case of welding on the apropriate bracketry?? I know the rears have a watts linkage "wattever"
d1 setup
Land Rover Discovery I Suspension Parts Available from RoversNorth.com - Land Rover Parts | Rovers North
d2 setup
Land Rover Discovery II Suspension Parts Available from RoversNorth.com - Land Rover Parts | Rovers North
From the looks of it, i would immagen the arms from d1 will fit the d2
jamesmartin
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diffs line up the same ,watts linkage prevents sideways movement as A frame did on d1 (was named after james watt who invented it for his engines)never done one though heard of a few presume its easiest to weld on d1 mounts etc
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Just as I was casually browsing LR4x4 look what I found!
The exact thing we needed!!
Read this RE axles:
Bingys ground-up 4.6 Megasquirted Challenge Truck 90 - Modified Vehicle Builds & Special Projects - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum
The exact thing we needed!!
Read this RE axles:
Bingys ground-up 4.6 Megasquirted Challenge Truck 90 - Modified Vehicle Builds & Special Projects - LR4x4 - The Land Rover Forum
discomark10
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hmm, Very interesting, good find! And you beat me to the questions
This has only just been done too!
This has only just been done too!
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
bingy said:Sam, tbh, i did these over 2 years ago.
At the time i thought it was a good idea. It may go belly up on me, but i can only have a go.
It might go down the road like an asda shopping trolley, it may work well.
But looking back through the photos, the Disco 2 front hockey sticks are a lot wider than the defender ones i have on.
The ones on the old defender are the 48mm thick ones. In order to try and replicate the brackets on the Disco2 axles, i used exactly the same size as the brackets on the old axles. I did masses of measuring and levelling, tacking and eye balling before i was happy with them.
The Disco 2 have a lot thicker arm than the ones i used and i had to cut all the old bracketry off to put the new ones on.
Original Brackets on Disco2 axle:
12. New Front Axle with old brackets removed 1.jpg
Brackets fitted for Defender fitting
16. New Front Axle with new brackets on 2.jpg
Hope this helps
So there you go. Next time I'm near a d2 I'll see if its bodgeable
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200tdi ayre
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So there you go. Next time I'm near a d2 I'll see if its bodgeable
Same
ill take some measurements next time we get one in
GreenHornet
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P38 pinion housing is pop side to D1 and D2
Hornet 4x4 needs cash investment, anyone up for a cooperative?
Hornet 4x4 needs cash investment, anyone up for a cooperative?
MPfive
Active Member
200tdi ayre
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I will give you 10pounds for 1% of your buisness
£10 for 5% including mechanising experience
