Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Still illegal to have even on 4x4 response vehicles. I int gonna go into chapter & verse. but they is illegal.
Still illegal to have even on 4x4 response vehicles. I int gonna go into chapter & verse. but they is illegal.
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Yeah I had heard that actually Joe tbh.
I guess it's one of them really, I'll hardly use then, but if I'm on a country track in low visibility conditions pulling a yaris out of a snow berm I'll definitely have the beacons on, because they increase safety! And I'm pretty damn sure that the police would see it that way too.
Like last year for instance.
A lad in a punto had almost comedically lost his car and Austin Powersed it sideways into the Armco wedging it in a slot.
I turned up out the blue, and realised that it was better to shift the car than wait for a police car, then an ambulance and three fire engines.
So pulled into the lane of traffic, had hazards and roof ambers on, huge obstruction etc, but coordinated with the police who were on scene and recovered the vehicle.
Nobody was concerned that my car was obstructing the traffic or had flashy lights cos the lights were preventing cars crashing into me!!
So all in all I think it's in the eye of the beholder and if safety is the priority then the LEDs are a good shout.
Just like flamer kits, nitrous, decats, even cut slicks - the chances are you'll be alright unless you shove it in the rozzers face!
Plus the LEDs are a safety item so it's kind of easier to justify
I guess it's one of them really, I'll hardly use then, but if I'm on a country track in low visibility conditions pulling a yaris out of a snow berm I'll definitely have the beacons on, because they increase safety! And I'm pretty damn sure that the police would see it that way too.
Like last year for instance.
A lad in a punto had almost comedically lost his car and Austin Powersed it sideways into the Armco wedging it in a slot.
I turned up out the blue, and realised that it was better to shift the car than wait for a police car, then an ambulance and three fire engines.
So pulled into the lane of traffic, had hazards and roof ambers on, huge obstruction etc, but coordinated with the police who were on scene and recovered the vehicle.
Nobody was concerned that my car was obstructing the traffic or had flashy lights cos the lights were preventing cars crashing into me!!
So all in all I think it's in the eye of the beholder and if safety is the priority then the LEDs are a good shout.
Just like flamer kits, nitrous, decats, even cut slicks - the chances are you'll be alright unless you shove it in the rozzers face!
Plus the LEDs are a safety item so it's kind of easier to justify
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Yeah I had heard that actually Joe tbh.
I guess it's one of them really, I'll hardly use then, but if I'm on a country track in low visibility conditions pulling a yaris out of a snow berm I'll definitely have the beacons on, because they increase safety! And I'm pretty damn sure that the police would see it that way too.
Like last year for instance.
A lad in a punto had almost comedically lost his car and Austin Powersed it sideways into the Armco wedging it in a slot.
I turned up out the blue, and realised that it was better to shift the car than wait for a police car, then an ambulance and three fire engines.
So pulled into the lane of traffic, had hazards and roof ambers on, huge obstruction etc, but coordinated with the police who were on scene and recovered the vehicle.
Nobody was concerned that my car was obstructing the traffic or had flashy lights cos the lights were preventing cars crashing into me!!
So all in all I think it's in the eye of the beholder and if safety is the priority then the LEDs are a good shout.
Just like flamer kits, nitrous, decats, even cut slicks - the chances are you'll be alright unless you shove it in the rozzers face!
Plus the LEDs are a safety item so it's kind of easier to justify
Yep I've got a proper lightbar with strobes as seen on rac vans. even a orange rotating beacon is illegal unless it's on a proper recovery truck. or a slow moving vehicle.
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
Pffft, bit of a silly law IMHO, but I guess it's to stop Tom, Dick and Harry fitting one to his corsa "cos he can"...
If used responsibly its unlikely to get you in trouble
yep tis stoopid lots of the lads in YL4x4Response had strobes and beacons fitted never had a problem but was told by committee not to have em fitted. No one took any notice..
here's the roolz..
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top-cat
Well-Known Member
Not too sure about that joe, ive had them on my vans for working roadside and certain sites like open cast mines etc.
Bt use em so do other utility companies, so not to sure about the full legalities
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Here's the blurb from the guy I bought them from:
"Important note:
All buyers of lights sold by active_led_lightbars (ebay) and Active LED (Lightbars) Ltd are expected to use and display lighting in accordance with UK and their own country's laws in connection with the construction and use requirements of vehicles / vehicle accessories. In making a purchase you acknowledge this fact and confirm compliance with these requirements set out in various enactments to include (but not restricted to) the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 and subsequent amendments and S76 of the 1988 Act in connection with purchase, sale and display of this type of lighting Road Traffic Act 1988. Our lights must be displayed correctly and legally so as not to endanger road users. Unless appropriately authorised light units may be displayed during normal driving for eventual use for the purpose for which they are intended but must be disconnected. active_led_lightbars and Active LED (Lightbars) Ltd are not able to accept any liability to a third party consequent to the incorrect use and installation of products sold by us."
So basically you can fit them with the intention to use then but they must be disconnected when on the road.
Or just turned off!
"Important note:
All buyers of lights sold by active_led_lightbars (ebay) and Active LED (Lightbars) Ltd are expected to use and display lighting in accordance with UK and their own country's laws in connection with the construction and use requirements of vehicles / vehicle accessories. In making a purchase you acknowledge this fact and confirm compliance with these requirements set out in various enactments to include (but not restricted to) the Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 and subsequent amendments and S76 of the 1988 Act in connection with purchase, sale and display of this type of lighting Road Traffic Act 1988. Our lights must be displayed correctly and legally so as not to endanger road users. Unless appropriately authorised light units may be displayed during normal driving for eventual use for the purpose for which they are intended but must be disconnected. active_led_lightbars and Active LED (Lightbars) Ltd are not able to accept any liability to a third party consequent to the incorrect use and installation of products sold by us."
So basically you can fit them with the intention to use then but they must be disconnected when on the road.
Or just turned off!
Pikey
Dummy Ejection Facilitator..
This is list of peeps that can "legally" have an amber light.
AMBER
any vehicle’s indicators
amber pedal reflectors or pedal lights
reflected from a registration plate
reflected from a road clearance vehicle
reflected from a vehicle carrying dangerous substances
reflected on some old or heavy vehicles
flashing amber lights on
a road clearance vehicle
a bin lorry
a breakdown vehicle
a vehicle with a 25 mph top speed
a vehicle wider than 2.9 metres
a roadworks vehicle
an escort vehicle
a Revenue and Customs vehicle
a surveying vehicle
a clamping or tow truck vehicle
airport vehicles
any other specially authorised vehicle
BT Water Leccy Gas etc are probably classed as rioadworks vehicles
AMBER
any vehicle’s indicators
amber pedal reflectors or pedal lights
reflected from a registration plate
reflected from a road clearance vehicle
reflected from a vehicle carrying dangerous substances
reflected on some old or heavy vehicles
flashing amber lights on
a road clearance vehicle
a bin lorry
a breakdown vehicle
a vehicle with a 25 mph top speed
a vehicle wider than 2.9 metres
a roadworks vehicle
an escort vehicle
a Revenue and Customs vehicle
a surveying vehicle
a clamping or tow truck vehicle
airport vehicles
any other specially authorised vehicle
BT Water Leccy Gas etc are probably classed as rioadworks vehicles
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Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
So as long as you are operating within the constraints of a breakdown or recovery vehicle, you're good.
Yep im saying it is a law to stop everyone fitting flashy lights because they can, but if you are in your land rover and currently operating as a recovery vehicle then flash away and nobody would bat an eyelid/have a decent case against you.
That of course means that sticking them on when you pull up outside the pizza shop is probably not ok!!
Yep im saying it is a law to stop everyone fitting flashy lights because they can, but if you are in your land rover and currently operating as a recovery vehicle then flash away and nobody would bat an eyelid/have a decent case against you.
That of course means that sticking them on when you pull up outside the pizza shop is probably not ok!!
Co-Pang-Yang
Well-Known Member
More epic work on what has to be my favourite 4x4 by a long way. Really makes me want to get a V8 when I sell my Defender (had it 2 months and miss the Disco!)
Just wondering what are the costs involves for mega squirt? I like my fording which is what's always put me off petrol, that and the thirst lol.
Also be interested in a price list for te strobes and a video of yours working when you've fitted them
Chris
Chris_copping73@yahoo.co.uk
Just wondering what are the costs involves for mega squirt? I like my fording which is what's always put me off petrol, that and the thirst lol.
Also be interested in a price list for te strobes and a video of yours working when you've fitted them
Chris
Chris_copping73@yahoo.co.uk
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Hello mate, thanks
Well, my Megasquirt cost £1200 but that was with at least £100 extras to make life easier, could have been done for less that £1000
And by the way it is ****ing awesome.
Tbh v8s are about a grand cheaper than diseasels so it's already paid for and you get a monster engine at the end of it, but you have 14 mpg not 25/30 like a diseasel.
So it's up to you
Will send prices now, anyone know how I could upload it with a link somewhere?
The guy has an eBay shop but he says the price list is more up to date/cheaper.
I just said id help him out, I'm not profiteering by the way.
Cheers!
Well, my Megasquirt cost £1200 but that was with at least £100 extras to make life easier, could have been done for less that £1000
And by the way it is ****ing awesome.
Tbh v8s are about a grand cheaper than diseasels so it's already paid for and you get a monster engine at the end of it, but you have 14 mpg not 25/30 like a diseasel.
So it's up to you
Will send prices now, anyone know how I could upload it with a link somewhere?
The guy has an eBay shop but he says the price list is more up to date/cheaper.
I just said id help him out, I'm not profiteering by the way.
Cheers!
discomark10
Well-Known Member
More epic work on what has to be my favourite 4x4 by a long way. Really makes me want to get a V8 when I sell my Defender (had it 2 months and miss the Disco!)
Just wondering what are the costs involves for mega squirt? I like my fording which is what's always put me off petrol, that and the thirst lol.
Also be interested in a price list for te strobes and a video of yours working when you've fitted them
Chris
Chris_copping73@yahoo.co.uk
Dont blame you fella, love my v8!
Psst.. dont tell no1 but im working on a electronic ignition. (similar to the mega squirt one)but only for the spark side for 3 reasons 1. its not to dificult 2. it will be water proof 3. it will provide a bit more performance over the dizzy
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
The dizzy does seem to be the main offender tbh regards drive ability, but the full squirt then gives you the power/tuneability.
Megajolt is not that expensive but full MS is the best option cos it future proofs you.
I had to make the same decision because igntion was my biggest gripe, I actually quite liked the 14CUX, but I am now so glad to be full MS!
Megajolt is not that expensive but full MS is the best option cos it future proofs you.
I had to make the same decision because igntion was my biggest gripe, I actually quite liked the 14CUX, but I am now so glad to be full MS!
Co-Pang-Yang
Well-Known Member
Got the email ta fella, stuff looks a lot nicer than the cheap eBay stuff I had on my other Disco.
Having a read up on the Mega squirt V8 website, interesting info on there. So did you just get it for the waterproof-ness of it or are you expecting performance gains as well?
Having a read up on the Mega squirt V8 website, interesting info on there. So did you just get it for the waterproof-ness of it or are you expecting performance gains as well?
LandyRover23
New Member
More epic work on what has to be my favourite 4x4 by a long way. Really makes me want to get a V8 when I sell my Defender (had it 2 months and miss the Disco!)
Just wondering what are the costs involves for mega squirt? I like my fording which is what's always put me off petrol, that and the thirst lol.
Also be interested in a price list for te strobes and a video of yours working when you've fitted them
Chris
Chris_copping73@yahoo.co.uk
88 LED AMBER RECOVERY BREAKDOWN PICKUP VEHICLE STROBE FLASHING GRILL LED LIGHTS | eBay
this is what i basically have on my disco they are good just the wires to strip them are fiddley as they are so thin lol not as fiddley as my footwell lights were
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
It develops so much more power, honestly mate it is worlds apart from dizzy + 14cux
Mainly because the timing is accurate, then because the spark is fat (I have increased the plug gap by 0.2mm also!) and also because I can now run target AFR and tune the engine with performance in mind.
It is easier said than done writing your own fuel maps believe me, but you can squeeze more economy out of the motor too if you are careful with your igntion advance.
Me personally will be happy to cruise at 14.5-15:1 AFR which is lean enough for cruise and plenty safe/cool, but I can now run a guaranteed 12.5-12.8:1 WOT mixture and super lean on overrun, which saves lots of fuel. Popping and banging on 14cux was awesome going downhill but it was literally pouring petrol into the exhaust, not ideal.
It really is a different story on MS, no more jerky hesitant running, just smooth dependable power.
Will do an underwater video one day, planning to submerge the engine and fire it up but need to sort out a breather pipe for the power steering reservoir first!
Mainly because the timing is accurate, then because the spark is fat (I have increased the plug gap by 0.2mm also!) and also because I can now run target AFR and tune the engine with performance in mind.
It is easier said than done writing your own fuel maps believe me, but you can squeeze more economy out of the motor too if you are careful with your igntion advance.
Me personally will be happy to cruise at 14.5-15:1 AFR which is lean enough for cruise and plenty safe/cool, but I can now run a guaranteed 12.5-12.8:1 WOT mixture and super lean on overrun, which saves lots of fuel. Popping and banging on 14cux was awesome going downhill but it was literally pouring petrol into the exhaust, not ideal.
It really is a different story on MS, no more jerky hesitant running, just smooth dependable power.
Will do an underwater video one day, planning to submerge the engine and fire it up but need to sort out a breather pipe for the power steering reservoir first!
Well Mr Noisy have to say lovely Disco - The main reason I joined this forum was because of you and Green Hornet both your Disco's are the mutts nuts -
I do like the idea of cutting a slot in the mounting point for the jate rings - was this your idea or already done ? Great idea .... makes it easy to remove the seized ground off original towbar bolts plus you can get some lube into the jate rings
I do like the idea of cutting a slot in the mounting point for the jate rings - was this your idea or already done ? Great idea .... makes it easy to remove the seized ground off original towbar bolts plus you can get some lube into the jate rings
abcdedd
New Member
With relaton to the flashing lights, On the farm I'm working on adn the old farm i worked on, they both had landys with beacons for escorting the combines, there was nothing special on their insurances or the way they were registered to say they were escort vehicles, just standard landys with beacons, so if all else fails, thats my excuse
