In message <eicjp7$h2p$1@localhost.localdomain>, GbH
<Geoff_Hannington@IEE.ORGasm> writes
>Badger wrote:
>> "beamendsltd" <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote in message
>> news:e1f6607f4e%beamendsltd@btconnect.com...
>>> In message <AIednWnblfNstdTYRVnytg@pipex.net>
>>> "Greg" <news@SPAM123voyager2.nildram.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "William Black" <william_black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:eial01$h1r$2@news.freedom2surf.net...
>>>>
>>>>> In Filey Council employees
>>>>>> have recently been stoned by groups of yobs, and in this village
>>>>>> we are seeing a steady increase in yob vandalism and arson. Sadly
>>>>>> the cameras are rarely manned, and the yobs know it, or simply
>>>>>> don't care.
>>>>>
>>>>> The camera feeds are recorded.
>>>>
>>>> A while ago we were told that that they weren't because no one
>>>> would even pay for the tapes!, quite how true that was I don't
>>>> know. But even if they are taped it's little use when there's no
>>>> one to point and zoom them in on an incident, a camera recording a
>>>> wide shot right down Westborough say is of no practical use as the
>>>> images will not be good enough to identify anyone, they have to be
>>>> controlled to get identifiable pictures so do nothing but prove
>>>> there was an incident. Popular TV has it that they can just take an
>>>> image and 'enhance' it until they get a good picture, Torchwood is
>>>> a good example, but that's science fiction pure and simple I'm
>>>> afraid.
>>>>
>>>> A few weeks ago I was told personally by a County Councillor that
>>>> there had been several incidents around town, right in the view of
>>>> the cameras, yet they were absolutely no help to the police. I have
>>>> yet so see any one of the camers actually move!, and that means
>>>> people are wise to it and take little notice.
>>>>
>>>> I've just come from a rather heated Council meeting where we had a
>>>> couple of dozen youths and a few parents all claiming that it
>>>> wasn't THEM doing the vandalising and arson in the village, some
>>>> pointing fingers at each other and claiming they had witnesses, all
>>>> very unpleasant. But the fact remains that we have a growing
>>>> problem with youths congregating in gangs, apparently there are two
>>>> rival gangs here, fighting, vadalising and starting fires.
>>>>
>>>> There's only one workable solution, more police presence, but no
>>>> matter what spin the government put on it that just isn't happening
>>>> 8-(.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm proabably going to get into big trouble for this, but here
>>> goes....
>>>
>>>> There's only one workable solution, more police presence, but no
>>>> matter what spin the government put on it that just isn't happening
>>>> 8-(.
>>>
>>> It's not the Police - it's the *parent(s)*. They need to get of their
>>> arses and go and find their kids if they don't know where they are or
>>> what they are doing. Apart from anything else, the humiliation factor
>>> soon breaks up the gangs.
>>>
>>> Flame proof suit donned.
>>
>> Put your flame-proof suit away mate, never a truer word said and all
>> that. If the parents are chain-smoking lazy-arsed couch potatoes,
>> what the hell sort of role model do the kids have to learn from? I
>> agree we need a greater police presence on the streets and that ain't
>> happening unless we sack a few dozen councillors and mp's and use
>> their wages to fund the extra coppers, now there's an idea... The
>> coulcillors and mp's remaining would then have to get their fingers
>> out and do some ****ing work for a change!
>> A change in the law to allow simple, workable (there's the key!)
>> prosecution of the parents for not instilling discipline in their own
>> would go a long way, but there's still the issue of the kids being
>> angels at home and the parents that genuinely don't know what their
>> "little darlings" are up to. I, personally, have my own answer. A
>> friend of mine lives in an area that I wouldn't want to. Nowhere near
>> as bad as some down south, but not the best place locally. Small
>> estate, there's been incidents of bricks through windscreens, keyed
>> paintwork and even a car torched. I made sure that the local "thugs"
>> (uneducated, unloved, unwashed layabout kids) all knew me on sight
>> and to talk to, and also made it common knowledge that if anyone
>> dared to touch my motor I'd hunt them down, decapitate their limbs
>> and make them ****ing well eat them! The one that got cheeky got a
>> swift kick in the nuts and smack in the mouth for good measure - his
>> mates then realised I meant what I said and everything's just fine.
>> I'm not saying that's what should be done in every case, but it
>> worked for me as a deterrent. Biggest problem is lack of discipline,
>> whether it be in the home or when out, and that's where a return to
>> National Service would come in....
>> Badger.
>
>Hmm. Train the little thugs in unarmed combat? maybe?
>
Or teach them to do as they are f****** told without question, that
their opinions do not matter one iota and they are the most
insignificant little scroats on the planet. In other words to undo all
the damage done by the current PC education and parenting guidelines.
--
hugh
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