They have, but it doesn't apply under 85 horsepower.
And in any case, going diesel electric will deal for the rest of my life, because most of the power can be accounted for as domestic.

All part of my strategy, stop you lot hogging the fuel with your gas guzzlers, more for us Boaters! :cool::D
What about the multi fuel stoves?:eek:
 
why not look at a plug in hybrid, my son has a golf, does about 60km on a charge which will get him to work, just, he charges it at work to get home, cheaper to buy, if he goes a long way he has to use some petrol but it does 5L per 100 KM which is good,
If you live in or near a city and do not do that many miles a day a good option and if you have to go somewhere quick not a problem
I like the idea of hybrids for UK traffic jams and town work.
 
Obviously some new form of maths there.
No, just some quick in my head maths.
Here's it worked out accurately, and yes I'm slightly wrong. ;)

If an EV battery charged to 100% looses 2% of it's remaining capacity each month for 6 months, it works out as this.

Month 1 the remaining capacity drops from 100% to 98%.

Month 2 the remaining capacity starts at 98% minus 2% leaves 96.04%.

Month 3, 96.04% - 2% = 94.11%.

Month 4, 94.11% - 2% = 92.22%.

Month 5, 92.22% - 2% = 90.37%.

Month 6, 90.37% - 2% = 88.56% remaining.

This is a loss of 11.44% over 6 months of sitting, so I was 1.44% out, but that's not even remotely close to being flat.
 
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No, just some quick in my head maths.
Here's it worked out accurately, and yes I'm slightly wrong. ;)

If an EV battery charged to 100% looses 2% of it's remaining capacity each month for 6 months, it works out as this.

Month 1 the remaining capacity drops from 100% to 98%.

Month 2 the remaining capacity starts at 98% minus 2% leaves 96.04%.

Month 3, 96.04% - 2% = 94.11%.

Month 4, 94.11% - 2% = 92.22%.

Month 5, 92.22% - 2% = 90.37%.

Month 6, 90.37% - 2% = 88.56% remaining.

This is a loss of 11.44% over 6 months of sitting, so I was 1.44% out, but that's snot even remotely close to being flat.
Theres a video on you tube showing James Mays Tesla with a flat battery Not the one for running the car but the auxiliary which is 12 v and works the lights and other things WHICH includes the door opening So he couldn't access the car . This battery is only charged when car is running so when not in use the ordinary battery will go flat and cause problems. He had to dismantle the front of the car to access battery to use jump leads to get in to use it
 
Theres a video on you tube showing James Mays Tesla with a flat battery Not the one for running the car but the auxiliary which is 12 v and works the lights and other things WHICH includes the door opening So he couldn't access the car . This battery is only charged when car is running so when not in use the ordinary battery will go flat and cause problems. He had to dismantle the front of the car to access battery to use jump leads to get in to use it

It's a Tesla, they're pretty poorly made, they can't even get the panel gaps right.

You are correct though, it's more likely that the 12 volt battery goes flat long before the main traction battery.
However unless it's a Tesla, it's no different to any other car with a flat battery, electric or otherwise. ;)
 
It's a Tesla, they're pretty poorly made, they can't even get the panel gaps right.

You are correct though, it's more likely that the 12 volt battery goes flat long before the main traction battery.
However unless it's a Tesla, it's no different to any other car with a flat battery, electric or otherwise. ;)
know several people with a Tesla and they seem a decent car even though they are all electric:eek:
 
know several people with a Tesla and they seem a decent car even though they are all electric

They have 70s Leyland build quality, but have lost of tech and toys to make them seem better than they really are.
They're incredibly unreliable, with batteries, drive units, and electrical gubbins all failing long before they should. It's not uncommon to see the panel gaps varying by up to 5mm around the same vehicle, and that's just the start of the build quality issues.
The new EVs out of Korea, Germany Japan and China are miles better in terms of build quality, compared to the stuff coming from across the pond.
 
They have 70s Leyland build quality, but have lost of tech and toys to make them seem better than they really are.
They're incredibly unreliable, with batteries, drive units, and electrical gubbins all failing long before they should. It's not uncommon to see the panel gaps varying by up to 5mm around the same vehicle, and that's just the start of the build quality issues.
The new EVs out of Korea, Germany Japan and China are miles better in terms of build quality, compared to the stuff coming from across the pond.
To be honest I am not that bothered about any of them because I can not afford the prices that are asked for them . Plus I would never consider one second hand. It's just a case of trying to get us older poorer ill old folk of the roads who can't afford them
 
To be honest I am not that bothered about any of them because I can not afford the prices that are asked for them . Plus I would never consider one second hand. It's just a case of trying to get us older poorer ill old folk of the roads who can't afford them
I'm with you on that.
If I could afford a decent car, it would not be a BEV. Also the reliability is worse than ICE cars with all the electronic problems.
 
To be honest I am not that bothered about any of them because I can not afford the prices that are asked for them

They're too expensive, agreed, but it's the way the world is going.
I would never consider one second hand.

Why not? They're much cheaper to run long term, with none of those expensive service items like timing belts, clutches, gearbox fluid changes, and basically anything else a BEV doesn't need. Oh and most of the fuel is free, if you have solar!! ;)
However for me, they're not as practical as my LR, so for the moment, I'll be driving that. :)
 
They're too expensive, agreed, but it's the way the world is going.


Why not? They're much cheaper to run long term, with none of those expensive service items like timing belts, clutches, gearbox fluid changes, and basically anything else a BEV doesn't need. Oh and most of the fuel is free, if you have solar!! ;)
However for me, they're not as practical as my LR, so for the moment, I'll be driving that. :)
You have just summed it up in your last line. They are not yet practical:)
 

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