Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

wammers said:
Turn the engine until one of the timing pips is showing at centre of the sensor position. You will need a light and mirror for this. Use old sensor if in good condition and superglue a shim on the end 0.060" or 1.5 mm thick, fit bracket loose and bolt sensor to bracket. Push bracket and sensor in until shim contacts timing pip, tighten bracket. Remove old sensor and fit new one. Job done.

Thanks @wammers the old one fell to piece so is it worth getting something made up same as crank sensor or just buy a new one and sacrifice the 2nd hand one I got or can it be done with starter motor off?

wammers · May 25, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Thanks @wammers the old one fell to piece so is it worth getting something made up same as crank sensor or just buy a new one and sacrifice the 2nd hand one I got or can it be done with starter motor off?

You could maybe use the new one, a small drop of super glue should hold the shim on then flick it off after you have set bracket.

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

wammers said:
You could maybe use the new one, a small drop of super glue should hold the shim on then flick it off after you have set bracket.

@wammers thank you will find a shim and give it a go will update. Fingers crossed that be the issue.

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

Just a question bleeding injectors how long do need crank engine for? I did for 10 seconds diesel was coming out each pipe ok. Thanks..

Datatek · May 25, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Just a question bleeding injectors how long do need crank engine for? I did for 10 seconds diesel was coming out each pipe ok. Thanks..

If there is diesel coming out of the injectors, nip up the unions and try cranking again. It took a bit of cranking to get mine running and also the other one I was involved with recently. Once it had fired it started easily afterwards.

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

Datatek said:
If there is diesel coming out of the injectors, nip up the unions and try cranking again. It took a bit of cranking to get mine running and also the other one I was involved with recently. Once it had fired it started easily afterwards.

Ok yeah mine just kept cranking and cranking my concern is knakering the new battery albeit the cps issue needs to be resolved first. Ordered a 1.5mm shim to come in so can set that properly and try again. Just amazed me if that was out the engine didn't even attempt to fire?

Datatek · May 25, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Ok yeah mine just kept cranking and cranking my concern is knakering the new battery albeit the cps issue needs to be resolved first. Ordered a 1.5mm shim to come in so can set that properly and try again. Just amazed me if that was out the engine didn't even attempt to fire?

The EDC needs to know what the engine is doing, no CPS and the EDC doesn't even know the engine is turning.

RangeRoller dt · May 25, 2020

Crack injectors one at a time.
Firing order is 1,5,3,6,2,4
be prepared for it to start so don’t wear your tie

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

Must be a CPS as it wouldn't fire even though had fuel coming out each injector. This has really stressed me out considering the amount of work I have put into it

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Would a diagnostic show up a CPS issue?

Grrrrrr · May 25, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Must be a CPS as it wouldn't fire even though had fuel coming out each injector. This has really stressed me out considering the amount of work I have put into it .

Would a diagnostic show up a CPS issue?

Not sure if diagnostics works until engine starts but it certainly shows the CPS signal on the fuelling part of the EDC on Nanocom.

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

Grrrrrr said:
Not sure if diagnostics works until engine starts but it certainly shows the CPS signal on the fuelling part of the EDC on Nanocom.

Wish I could afford a nanocom

Lukas018 · May 25, 2020

Is nanocom better than bearmach hawkeye for general P38 diagnostic?

I got the diesel synch mate which I think hawkeye doesnt have this re-sync function..

RangeRoller dt · May 25, 2020

Yes.
Nanocom 06 for diesel is the whippets Mars bar.

I wish you could afford me one too

RangeRoller dt · May 25, 2020

Hawkeye with a P38 will give you codes, but god knows what they mean

they say it’s on their website but you try fixing an m51 with that I dare you

tomcat59alan · May 25, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Ok yeah mine just kept cranking and cranking my concern is knakering the new battery albeit the cps issue needs to be resolved first. Ordered a 1.5mm shim to come in so can set that properly and try again. Just amazed me if that was out the engine didn't even attempt to fire?

Never thought of cutting a bit off a 1.5mm feeler gauge?

stemac33 · May 26, 2020

I used a blob of wax trimmed down to 1.5mm on the end of the cps to reset mine. When the flywheel rotates it just knocks it off.

Lukas018 · May 27, 2020

@wammers @Datatek @RangeRoller dt Just ran a hawkeye diagnostic only fault it came up with is fault 25 glow plug control module? Would this prevent a total non fire?

Attached some photos of live data injection says -3 degrees.

Also attached are faults from becm check if anyone can make sense of these?

No error came up on the cps sensor.

Again at a loss.

Datatek · May 27, 2020

Lukas018 said:
@wammers @Datatek @RangeRoller dt Just ran a hawkeye diagnostic only fault it came up with is fault 25 glow plug control module? Would this prevent a total non fire?

Attached some photos of live data injection says -3 degrees.

Also attached are faults from becm check if anyone can make sense of these?

No error came up on the cps sensor.

Again at a loss.

No Glow plugs = no start.
I wouldn't know about the injection -3 degrees, I don't have that diagnostic device and the presentation of information is different. @wammers would know.
The BECM stuff is a communications problem, at least that's what your diagnostics say, I would ignore that for the moment

Lukas018 · May 27, 2020

Datatek said:
No Glow plugs = no start.
I wouldn't know about the injection -3 degrees, I don't have that diagnostic device and the presentation of information is different. @wammers would know.
The BECM stuff is a communications problem, at least that's what your diagnostics say, I would ignore that for the moment

Ok cheers. Do you know where the glow plug module relay is located?

Datatek · May 27, 2020

Lukas018 said:
Ok cheers. Do you know where the glow plug module relay is located?

In with the EDC in the box behind the battery where there is also a fuse.

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