Wolf style rim retrofit to 1983 110

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If you are worried about the “MOT” rather than the safety (as the safety is covered by the increased torque) you could always fit solid enclosed wheel nuts so the studs cannot be seen. Other than the fact you are on the other side the world, I have just removed a set you could have had as went back to standard on my project station wagon.

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I will try and remember to check the series when I am back in the country. In the mean time here are some pictures (blown up from other pics) of the td5 which looks like the the studs sit flush on the back and maybe one thread short on the front but they are the factory original studs and genuine tubeless HD rims.

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Below is my series 3 again with original studs which both front and back the studs are short and leave a couple Of threads of nut exposed. These are genuine tubes HD rims.

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The series 3 definitely looks about the same amount of engagement as ours are now
 
If you are worried about the “MOT” rather than the safety (as the safety is covered by the increased torque) you could always fit solid enclosed wheel nuts so the studs cannot be seen. Other than the fact you are on the other side the world, I have just removed a set you could have had as went back to standard on my project station wagon.

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Yeah caps instantly remove the look of uncertainty!
 
There are three lengths of stud.
40(39), 45 and 60(56)mm.

I think the OP has the (40)39mm ones as they have a plain end ... ?

If so part number FRC6137 will get you closer.
I checked the length of ours and they are 45mm, I think that the older defender hubs were thicker than the later ones which accounts for the 2 lengths 40/45 ideally we need about 4.5mm more, the 60mm would be OK but then people start mentioning there is too much thread poking out! for me I'm just waiting for some good technical data to confirm the 45mm studs with the higher torque is approved by landrover but I dont think thats going to happen
 
, my problem is I can spot the copies a mile off

I'm casually looking for a set, and I'm relaxed enough on time scales that I may as well get genuine.

What are the indicators as to "authenticity" when I'm browsing face book market place in the middle of the night?

I'm in no rush and am happy to chuck some sand / not sand in my clemco, so figured I'd look for a ropey (cheap) set and refinish them myself but have not found the "silver bullet" to ID them from a distance.
 
I'm casually looking for a set, and I'm relaxed enough on time scales that I may as well get genuine.

What are the indicators as to "authenticity" when I'm browsing face book market place in the middle of the night?

I'm in no rush and am happy to chuck some sand / not sand in my clemco, so figured I'd look for a ropey (cheap) set and refinish them myself but have not found the "silver bullet" to ID them from a distance.
One thing I found with the sets I have bought is people who advertise them as “HD” or “130” rims tend to be asking half the price of people who advertise them as “wolf” or “military” despite the fact they are the same thing. And they were fitted as standard to 130 vehicles and a lot of the special vehicle 110 utility vehicles. The big thing I found is sellers don’t know the difference between tubed and tubeless and don’t know how to tell by looking externally. So that is something else you need to aware of and you can then ask for the specific photos or look closely at the advertised photos to know what it is you are looking at.
 
What are the indicators as to "authenticity" when I'm browsing face book market place in the middle of the night?

Originals have the part numbers and size stamped on them, although that is difficult to see.
ANR5592 (for tubed tyres) and ANR4583 (for tubeless) and the size 16x6.5".

The 'obvious thing' is the position of the holes.
Colour is irrelevant as they could have been repainted but black wasn't a standard colour and is typically the first give-away.

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Real ones ...

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NOT real ones ...
Most seller do say they are 'Wolf Style' wheels to be fair.

Interesting article ..
 
Originals have the part numbers and size stamped on them, although that is difficult to see.
ANR5592 (for tubed tyres) and ANR4583 (for tubeless) and the size 16x6.5".

The 'obvious thing' is the position of the holes.
Colour is irrelevant as they could have been repainted but black wasn't a standard colour and is typically the first give-away.

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Real ones ...

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NOT real ones ...
Most seller do say they are 'Wolf Style' wheels to be fair.

Interesting article ..


I'm not the most observant (my partner does the quality control on my work as I just don't see things) but, to me, I can't see what you're seeing between the two photos.

Can you point out "wheres wally" to me?
 
...is it that the holes are touching the fold on the non OEM ones and there's a bit of a web between the holes and the bend on the OEM?
 
...is it that the holes are touching the fold on the non OEM ones and there's a bit of a web between the holes and the bend on the OEM?
The ridge for the "dome" centre is much harsher and more pronounced on the aftermarket ones and almost look like it is stuck on rather than being part of the wheel.

You can tell tubed vs tubless even with tyres fitted because where the bead ridge is on inside edge on tubless there is an indent on the inside of the rim. If it doesn't have this they are tube type.
 
As an example, these on eBay -


The gap between the holes and the ridge is there and I can't see a significant ridge around the bead.

Would these be original and tubeless?


(I'm not buying them - I'm just using them as an example)
 
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