Freelander 1 Will these cars ever become an appreciating classic?

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Perhaps opportunity for a team of 10 or 12 to self finance a small business??
That's a possibility Andy. The main issue is geographical, as us FL1 enthusiasts are pretty spread out. I and another FL1 have taking owner about building an EV FL1 for some time, he's done loads of E bike conversions to date, and together have worked through lots of issues, components needed, mods to the vehicle and so on. However geography gets in the way of us meeting for a real discussion, as he's in Northern Ireland, and I'm in Cornwall.

It's still something I'd love to do, and who knows, one day I might finish and sell my beloved Avenger GT, which would help finance such a venture.
 
Keeping it 4WD, as a 2WD FL1 is pointless.

A Nissan Leaf motor/inverter can be coupled to the standard manual gearbox, in place of the engine. The gearbox could be used as a ratio change box for off road use, or simply left in 3rd or 4th all the time.
The motor has more than enough torque to accelerate a FL1 weight vehicle in 4th, and a high enough RPM range to make gear changing unnecessary. Reverse gear isn't needed at all, as the motor reverses direction for the vehicle to go backwards, which is something an IC engine can't do.

Brake vacuum comes from an electrical vacuum pump off another vehicle, as does an electric power steering pump. There's even an electric driven AC compressor available from another vehicle.

The standard FL1 PTC heater can be used to warm the cabin when cold, and the motor/inverter coolant circuit can be used to warm the heater matrix just like a conventional IC engine does.

An additional small radiator can be used to cool the motor/inverter when additional heating isn't needed in the cabin.


If the fuel tank is removed, there's a decent amount of space for a sizable battery pack, right there ready for use. There's also more space behind the rear sub-frame (where the rear silencer resides normally) and if the rear cubby box is removed (making the boot floor flat) then the space under the boot floor is huge. I've worked out I can fit over 30 kWh of batteries in those 2 locations alone.

The Nissan Leaf motor/inverter unit is much smaller than the IC engine, so there's more battery space up the front too, and even more space under the floors between the sills and chassis rails, if some ingenuity is used to assemble odd shaped battery packs. I think there's another 20 kWh or more of battery space under the floor, which would add to the range and usefulness of the vehicle.


The wiring integration with the vehicle CAN-BUS will be the difficult bit, but I don't think it's impossible to solve these days, as there are CAN-BUS emulators and converters available now. Actually getting the vehicle to move under battery power isn't that difficult, as there's a growing community of people developing motor drive controllers for the Nissan Leaf motor/inverter for this very purpose.

Thankfully I'm suitably skilled to do the engineering, but my stumbling block is the finances, which would be a considerable up front outlay, with no return until it's on the road. Also a suitable (immaculate) FL1 needs to be found at a good price, as there's no point in messing with a tatty or rusty vehicle to start with.
How does the weight work out? what do you think the motor /inverter weight is compared to ic unit?, if you could add batteries there to get weight up to about the same that would help,
Really interesting project I hope you get the chance to do it.
I also think the Nissan leaf could end up being target for car thief's if you can sell bits off
 
How does the weight work out? what do you think the motor /inverter weight is compared to ic unit?
The Leaf motor/inverter is ~70Kgs, which is lighter than any engine fitted to the FL1. The K4 engine is around 85Kgs, the KV6 is around 125kgs, and the TD4 is about the same. You need to factor in that the KV6 only came with the auto box, which added another 65kgs over a TD4 manual box, giving the KV6/TD4 auto FL1 a total weight of around 1700Kgs.

I reckon that overall an EV FL1 weight could be kept to under 1700Kgs, although the weight distribution would alter slightly.
if you could add batteries there to get weight up to about the same that would help

There's space for over 30Kwr of batteries in front and behind the rear sub-frame as described earlier. That 30Kwh of flat cells weigh around 200Kgs. Don't forget that the fuel tank and pump will go, as would the complete exhaust system, removing weight to start with. Adding more cells up the front would help balance out the weight distribution a bit, but in reality, a change of location of a couple of hundred Kgs isn't going to upset the FL1 much. It's no different than having a tank full of fuel, and a couple of light adults on the back seat.

Really interesting project I hope you get the chance to do it.
I'm keeping hopeful that the project will go ahead at some point in the future.
 
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