Wheels and Tyres

prunty · Mar 8, 2016

I've just become the new owner of a 1978 Series 3 and the last owner has obvious taken whatever aftermarket wheels and tyres off it before the sale as it is now fitted with some odd and very poor looking wheels.

I have been browsing through this forum but am still not sure what was the original fit ment for this vehicle is, plus what other option are out there. Not really looking to go to mad with oversized stuff, but slightly bigger might enhance the look as she has got parabolic springs fitted.

Any comments welcome...

honolulujoe · Mar 8, 2016

if you want to fill the arches get some wolf rims with 7.50 r16's

honolulujoe · Mar 8, 2016

these are the original 6.00's but the rims are too narrow for 7.50's - only 5 inches wide -

you need at least lwb rims 5.5 inch wide

prunty · Mar 8, 2016

Yea I like those, is there any issue with fitment??

Are all Landy wheels interchangeable??

jockmurray · Mar 8, 2016

interchangeable up to disco 1 different from disco 2 onward as far as im aware

waldershelf · Mar 8, 2016

If you like the standard look try and get hold of some 5 1/2J LWB rims and put 750x16 on them, they fill the arches and look better than the standard SWB 600x16. You can fit more modern rubber such as 235 85 R16 which are about the same size as 750x16 but make sure they are suitable for use with tubes, not all are.

Lloydwayne83 · Mar 8, 2016

750x16 look better than 235/85/16 which can look to wide even on 109 rims

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

prunty said:
I've just become the new owner of a 1978 Series 3 and the last owner has obvious taken whatever aftermarket wheels and tyres off it before the sale as it is now fitted with some odd and very poor looking wheels.

I have been browsing through this forum but am still not sure what was the original fit ment for this vehicle is, plus what other option are out there. Not really looking to go to mad with oversized stuff, but slightly bigger might enhance the look as she has got parabolic springs fitted.

Any comments welcome...

6.00x16 SWB, 7.50x16 LWB were always the standard series tyres. Radials are now a better option than the crossplys.

prunty said:
Are all Landy wheels interchangeable??

Not at all, series rims come in different widths. 90/110 and Defender are different to series. Later discos different again. Both 5.5 and Wolf rims are still available,

Lloydwayne83 said:
750x16 look better than 235/85/16 which can look to wide even on 109 rims

I agree, would always avoid profile tyres on a series if possible!

honolulujoe · Mar 8, 2016

my s1 has lwb rims and 750's

Lloydwayne83 · Mar 8, 2016

Going to replace my 235 with 750 next time just looks right
And that's a nice looking s1

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

waldershelf said:
You can fit more modern rubber such as 235 85 R16 which are about the same size as 750x16

You must have a different sort of tape measure to me!

On my ruler. 7.50 inch is closer to 190mm than 235mm?

honolulujoe said:
my s1 has lwb rims and 750's

Tyres look great!

Exhaust maybe needs some fine tuning for optimal ground clearance, though!

honolulujoe · Mar 8, 2016

Turboman said:
Tyres look great! Exhaust maybe needs some fine tuning for optimal ground clearance, though

actually the exhaust is one thing that annoys me, it really spoils the look imho, when it finally drops off - which will be anytime soon

- might take it to somewhere to see if they can route it differently so it is less obvious.

tyres are goodyear g90 on both the s1 and 3

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

honolulujoe said:
actually the exhaust is one thing that annoys me, it really spoils the look imho, when it finally drops off - which will be anytime soon - might take it to somewhere to see if they can route it differently so it is less obvious.

tyres are goodyear g90 on both the s1 and 3

Distant memories, take it as a guide not as gospel!

I dont think that is the exhaust for that vehicle, that one could be off a series 2a or 3.
IIRC from fitting them years ago the right exhaust would have a little U shaped pipe that tucks neatly around the crossmember, and has two joints, one onto the downpipe, and one onto a straight pipe going back to the rear silencer.

waldershelf · Mar 8, 2016

Turboman said:
You must have a different sort of tape measure to me! On my ruler. 7.50 inch is closer to 190mm than 235mm?

I meant diameter rather than width

You are of course correct about the theoretical width being different, they don't look that different in real life though. I suppose because of the different construction?

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

waldershelf said:
I meant diameter rather than width You are of course correct about the theoretical width being different, they don't look that different in real life though. I suppose because of the different construction?

Yes, diameter might be similar.

Theoretical is a good word in the context of tyre sizes, from what I have seen. A 7.50 16 can be between 7 and 8 and a bit inches actually measured across the tread.
I have 205R16, they are slightly wider, but about 1" less diameter than my 7.50R16 Fedimas, dont think thats how the numbers would stack up, but thats how they are in practice!

honolulujoe · Mar 8, 2016

Turboman said:
Distant memories, take it as a guide not as gospel!

I dont think that is the exhaust for that vehicle, that one could be off a series 2a or 3.
IIRC from fitting them years ago the right exhaust would have a little U shaped pipe that tucks neatly around the crossmember, and has two joints, one onto the downpipe, and one onto a straight pipe going back to the rear silencer.

you may be right, been nosing round the galleries on the s1 club and there seem to be some different types - but of course it doesn't tell you what engine is in the car - some have the exhaust as glaringly obvious as mine. My s3 has the bracket tucking round the crossmember you describe. The main difference between the 2.0L s1 and the 2.285 s3 diesel I have is the manifold, on the s1 it comes horizontally off the engine and joins to the exhaust, the exhaust then bends down so the down section is much closer to the edge of the wing than on the s3 where the downward bend is on the manifold itself.

I imagine getting a manifold custom made would be expensive c.f. an exhaust so at best I will probably only be able to make the exhaust less obtrusive, the taller sills on the later models help to hide the exhaust a bit too.

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

honolulujoe said:
you may be right, been nosing round the galleries on the s1 club and there seem to be some different types - but of course it doesn't tell you what engine is in the car - some have the exhaust as glaringly obvious as mine. My s3 has the bracket tucking round the crossmember you describe. The main difference between the 2.0L s1 and the 2.285 s3 diesel I have is the manifold, on the s1 it comes horizontally off the engine and joins to the exhaust, the exhaust then bends down so the down section is much closer to the edge of the wing than on the s3 where the downward bend is on the manifold itself.

I imagine getting a manifold custom made would be expensive c.f. an exhaust so at best I will probably only be able to make the exhaust less obtrusive, the taller sills on the later models help to hide the exhaust a bit too.

Again purely from memory. The exact pattern of the exhausts was a bit variable. Different ways to bend under the crossmember, slightly different ways to bend over the axle. Different sizes and location of boxes in the system.
I guess they just got what was going cheap down at the tube manufacturers that day, same as most land rover design!

This tradition seems to have continued at least into 90/110, I have seen at least five different patterns of exhaut on apparently similar vehicles

prunty · Mar 8, 2016

Thanks for the comments lads, at least I think I know what I should be looking out for now.

I think a set of the LWB rims with the 7.50's could be the job.

Turboman · Mar 8, 2016

prunty said:
Thanks for the comments lads, at least I think I know what I should be looking out for now.

I think a set of the LWB rims with the 7.50's could be the job.

Doubt if you will go far wrong with that plan!

Remora107 · Mar 9, 2016

honolulujoe said:
my s1 has lwb rims and 750's

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So does mine . But then it is supposed to ! Well , 7x16s actually , but they are hard to get hold of these days .

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