What did you do with your Range Rover today

kermit_rr · Dec 23, 2022

marjon said:
From what @Datatek said the haldex is similar to the present day 322 center locking(ish) ability. Cant remember what year they changed from the torsen.
The torsen is an ATB type which is fiction controlled no driver input needed.

J

Seems l322 changed to manga steyr DD295 in 2009

Datatek · Dec 23, 2022

kermit_rr said:
Maybe over simplified, but the viscous units sound similar in operation to the viscous fan..
Haldex and torsen seem far too complicated for their own good!!
I thought i had read the 322 used torsen, but i can't remember where i read that! What does it use n? And does it depend on the model year ie which gearbox is used?
Before i plumped for the 322 i was considering an audi a6 allroad, that used torsen apparently.. but it's a freaking long car!! Longer than the landy!!

Some years of the L322 used the Torsen diff, compared to Haldex, it's a simple device and very good was used in the Escort RS1600 if I remember correctly.

stuu · Dec 23, 2022

Workshop manuals say Nv225 same unit (diffrent bush aparently) on 2002-2005 td6 and 4.4 bmw engine,, dd295 2006 onwards jag engined and 3.6,
My 2006 transferbox is very diffrent to even look at compred to my td6

stuu · Dec 23, 2022

@kermit_rr

https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/magna-steyr-dd295-transfer-box-teardown.41233/

kermit_rr · Dec 23, 2022

stustrong said:
@kermit_rr

https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/magna-steyr-dd295-transfer-box-teardown.41233/

I won't be doing that

stuu · Dec 23, 2022

kermit_rr said:
I won't be doing that

I wouldn't mind but id like another one just to fiddle with,
That reconditioned 6hp26 525d gearbox i pulled the valve body out to use in my RR iv pulled it too bits now just for the sake of doing it i did pull my old 5l40e out my td6 apart too just because i can

Scotiawhiskers · Dec 24, 2022

Uncovered him for the first time in about 3 weeks, emptied the 1/2 full dehumidifier.
Depressurised the rear (already down on the stops), then found the big jack wouldn't go under now, so ran him and pumped up enough to get the jack in and then depressurised again.
Got the wheels off the back, followed by the arch liners and about 8lbs of mud and crap. Brushed everything clean, tried to paint it where necessary but it is a bit chilly for that. Will Lanoguard it on reassembly.
Looked at how to get the rear airbags off but it looks a bitch, especially with rusted out top clips and ones at the bottom that seem to have been fitted and then bent over.
I'm guessing it will be chisel the bottom mount off the axle and break the pins, like it was with the front bags, but not doing that until I have trawled the forum to check on getting the top out without damaging myself or anything else.

kermit_rr · Dec 24, 2022

Scotiawhiskers said:
Uncovered him for the first time in about 3 weeks, emptied the 1/2 full dehumidifier.
Depressurised the rear (already down on the stops), then found the big jack wouldn't go under now, so ran him and pumped up enough to get the jack in and then depressurised again.
Got the wheels off the back, followed by the arch liners and about 8lbs of mud and crap. Brushed everything clean, tried to paint it where necessary but it is a bit chilly for that. Will Lanoguard it on reassembly.
Looked at how to get the rear airbags off but it looks a bitch, especially with rusted out top clips and ones at the bottom that seem to have been fitted and then bent over.
I'm guessing it will be chisel the bottom mount off the axle and break the pins, like it was with the front bags, but not doing that until I have trawled the forum to check on getting the top out without damaging myself or anything else.

The rears were really easy on my p38

Scotiawhiskers · Dec 24, 2022

kermit_rr said:
The rears were really easy on my p38

These look pretty solid at the bottom (metal base on the springs fitted, new ones are plastic).
Just looks like a pain to get to and remove / fit the pins for the top, although I can see with the spring free the airline should be relatively easy. How were the pins on your shocks?

kermit_rr · Dec 24, 2022

Scotiawhiskers said:
These look pretty solid at the bottom (metal base on the springs fitted, new ones are plastic).
Just looks like a pain to get to and remove / fit the pins for the top, although I can see with the spring free the airline should be relatively easy. How were the pins on your shocks?

Didn't touch the shocks, just the bags. Hooked a bit of bendy wire round the airbag pin and it pulled out

Vogueman · Dec 24, 2022

I went for a long drive, has it has been stood for over a week, fired up, the suspension came up to level, off we go. 80 miles later back home, ran like a dream
lovely car. I did put my foot down a couple of times, the growl of that V8 never get's old.

rich28uk · Dec 24, 2022

Had a stuck outer pad on drivers side other day so today stripped and cleaned it all and new pads and discs on front, also cleaned and rustproofed areas of subframe that were easier to access with front wheels off.

Scotiawhiskers · Dec 24, 2022

kermit_rr said:
Didn't touch the shocks, just the bags. Hooked a bit of bendy wire round the airbag pin and it pulled out

Meant bags, not shocks. One is so rusted it has pretty much gone right through, I recon it will just split it I try pulling it. The other is bent down a bit so not sure there is a gap between the pin and the top of the bag.
Both of them the bottom pin is rusted solid feeling, plus with the ed bent down so it won't push through easily.

Grrrrrr · Dec 24, 2022

Scotiawhiskers said:
Meant bags, not shocks. One is so rusted it has pretty much gone right through, I recon it will just split it I try pulling it. The other is bent down a bit so not sure there is a gap between the pin and the top of the bag.
Both of them the bottom pin is rusted solid feeling, plus with the ed bent down so it won't push through easily.

A small paint-roller or simar with a hook is good to get the top pin. I use a metal coat-hanger doubled over and bent into a hook.

Failing that, jemmy bar and just snap the pins. Can be an utter sod where metal caps. Airline should pop out after depressing the collet but that can also be a total sod. It is possible to dislodge the bag and then wriggle the bag out with the airline still attached and then have a go.

marjon · Dec 24, 2022

Grrrrrr said:
A small paint-roller or simar with a hook is good to get the top pin

Just to add to this.
Without the fluffy roller on it

.

J

Grrrrrr · Dec 24, 2022

marjon said:
Just to add to this.
Without the fluffy roller on it.

J

Where's the Homer Simpson animated gif?!

marjon · Dec 24, 2022

Grrrrrr said:
Where's the Homer Simpson animated gif?!

Sorry never done Simpsons unless I needed shoes, and I certainly am not sharing any gilf pics

.

Santas nearly here so got to watch the show as he squeezes down our chimney and burns his bum on the fire cos got it roaring tonight

. Will try and get pics

.

J

Scotiawhiskers · Dec 24, 2022

Grrrrrr said:
A small paint-roller or simar with a hook is good to get the top pin. I use a metal coat-hanger doubled over and bent into a hook.

Failing that, jemmy bar and just snap the pins. Can be an utter sod where metal caps. Airline should pop out after depressing the collet but that can also be a total sod. It is possible to dislodge the bag and then wriggle the bag out with the airline still attached and then have a go.

Thanks for that. Thought from RAVE and the look of the set up that airline last after dislodging the bag was probably best access / way to keep it clean.
Just had visions of me snapping a pin at one end, then being unable to get the other end off instead. Will try to pull the top pins - got stainless TIG filler rod which should make a decent strength hook / tool with care.
Sprayed lube around the collets and pins to try to loosen / dislodge anything overnight. Will do the same as I did on the fronts and give them a thorough working with a toothbrush before disconnection anyway. Fronts came out really easily, recall I used the open end of an 8mm spanner to give an even push on it. Probably won't get to any of that until Boxing Day now though.

Datatek · Dec 25, 2022

Scotiawhiskers said:
These look pretty solid at the bottom (metal base on the springs fitted, new ones are plastic).
Just looks like a pain to get to and remove / fit the pins for the top, although I can see with the spring free the airline should be relatively easy. How were the pins on your shocks?

Remove the airline first. My airbag replacement guide is in the archive.
I made a tool for pulling the top pins out from reebar but some people have found they have to cut and them punch them out if the air springs have the metal end caps.

badfluffy · Dec 25, 2022

took the wheel out of the boot to fit it and found it swimming in water, oh joy

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