Very hard to change/get into gear

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Hey guys how's it going? Got a bit of an odd one. The discovery 2 is becoming a bit of a pain with regards to the gears.
Basically it hates going into first most times. REALLY hates going into 2nd and then crunches into 3rd. Second gear doesn't crunch but I really have to pull on the gear stick to get it in. As if there is a gate on the gear I'm forcing it through. Then up into 3rd it will crunch (clutch to the floor) unless I'm changing gear very early then it's pretty sweet to be honest. But it means I pull away like a slug. Any ideas? Might be worth mentioning I get the odd over-Rev between gear changes (as if I'm still on the throttle when I press on the clutch). It's a td5 :)
Thanks
 
Hey guys how's it going? Got a bit of an odd one. The discovery 2 is becoming a bit of a pain with regards to the gears.
Basically it hates going into first most times. REALLY hates going into 2nd and then crunches into 3rd. Second gear doesn't crunch but I really have to pull on the gear stick to get it in. As if there is a gate on the gear I'm forcing it through. Then up into 3rd it will crunch (clutch to the floor) unless I'm changing gear very early then it's pretty sweet to be honest. But it means I pull away like a slug. Any ideas? Might be worth mentioning I get the odd over-Rev between gear changes (as if I'm still on the throttle when I press on the clutch). It's a td5 :)
Thanks

It could be:

1. Air in the hydraulic circuit of the clutch, so when you press the clutch pedal the clutch release bearing is not pressing onto the cover plate enough;

2. Clutch release bearing is collapsing;

3. Oil in gearbox needs topping up/changing - re-fill with MTF94;

4. Bias plate at the base of the lever needs adjusting or the plastic cage needs replacing.


Dave
 
It could be:



1. Air in the hydraulic circuit of the clutch, so when you press the clutch pedal the clutch release bearing is not pressing onto the cover plate enough;



2. Clutch release bearing is collapsing;



3. Oil in gearbox needs topping up/changing - re-fill with MTF94;



4. Bias plate at the base of the lever needs adjusting or the plastic cage needs replacing.





Dave


Thanks Dave

I did change the gearbox oil when it started but saw no difference. I'll bleed the clutch next then.
I'm afraid I don't understand number 4

Thanks
 
Thanks Dave

I did change the gearbox oil when it started but saw no difference. I'll bleed the clutch next then.
I'm afraid I don't understand number 4

Thanks

Re no. 4 :

There is a plate with 2 springs at the base of the gear lever and this is what gives the spring-loaded feel and neutral at the 3/4 gear positions. This plate is adjustable side to side, to optimise gear selection. Beneath this plate is the "Bush-change pivot manual transmission" (or plastic cage) as seen in the diagram included.
 

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Re no. 4 :

There is a plate with 2 springs at the base of the gear lever and this is what gives the spring-loaded feel and neutral at the 3/4 gear positions. This plate is adjustable side to side, to optimise gear selection. Beneath this plate is the "Bush-change pivot manual transmission" (or plastic cage) as seen in the diagram included.


Ok mate. So how would I adjust this for better and not make it worse? If that makes sense
 
Ok mate. So how would I adjust this for better and not make it worse? If that makes sense

Well the first thing I would do is to order up the plastic cage and the bias plate so you've got them in stock, before you open up the gubbins.

To access these elements you will need to remove the centre console and the riveted plate which will allow access to the top of the gearbox and the parts in question.

The adjustment when you get to it is just a matter of sliding it left and right until you get to be able to select all gears finger-light. Rave (the LR workshop manual) states to move the plate as far to the right as possible, then tighten the locating screws.

The more I think about it the less convinced I am about it being the bias plate adjustment and more likely to be the cage that's worn out.

Dave
 
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Thanks a lot Dave. Great detail. Appreciated. I'll private message from now and I'll
Post the results for others in future. Top man
 
The revs " flaring " on gear change will be you clutch switch. It is in the line between the master and slave cyclinders in the pre-facelift and mounted directly to master cylinder on the facelift. If you have cruise, set it and see if it cancels when you put the clutch down.
 
The revs " flaring " on gear change will be you clutch switch. It is in the line between the master and slave cyclinders in the pre-facelift and mounted directly to master cylinder on the facelift. If you have cruise, set it and see if it cancels when you put the clutch down.


Hi.
It does cancel the cruise control if I press the clutch. But I will replace it as well. Thanks
 
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