Towing Question.....help

matquad88 · Feb 8, 2010

na im in at da mo mate, in london at the mo with kings troop of all places!!

beverage · Feb 8, 2010

aw right i left about 1 year ago to become an aircraft engineer in civvie street. Reccy Mech with 5BN REME and QDG's. Did bosnia, falklands and iraqi. What trade are you?

matquad88 · Feb 8, 2010

gdgd im a cellar dweller, crafty mate

The_Big_P · Feb 8, 2010

I don't understand why you can't tow it on all 4 wheels with the transfer and main boxes in neutral

matquad88 · Feb 8, 2010

i didnt ask the question but my solution to all this is a trailer which wat im doing this weekend when i pick up a 90.

beverage · Feb 8, 2010

you can just keep speed down as you have no brakes on the casualty and it won't hesitate to tip u over... see picture to follow...

kernowdragon · Feb 8, 2010

The_Big_P said:
I don't understand why you can't tow it on all 4 wheels with the transfer and main boxes in neutral

Stop befuddling yurself, you can!

Langers · Feb 8, 2010

The_Big_P said:
I don't understand why you can't tow it on all 4 wheels with the transfer and main boxes in neutral

You can! What you can't do is to tow it with one end lifted up and the other running on the ground, as this will cause massive damage to the gearboxes and drivetrain.

The_Big_P · Feb 8, 2010

Langers said:
You can! What you can't do is to tow it with one end lifted up and the other running on the ground, as this will cause massive damage to the gearboxes and drivetrain.

Even if both boxes were in neutral

Langers · Feb 8, 2010

This bloke explains it better than I could;

beverage said:
OK guys as a recovery mechanic for the army for 5 years let me clear a few things up:

1. You SHOULD remove the prop shaft when towing a landy at an angle (support tow, Dolly or Spec Lift) because of splash lubrication in the transfer box and wear and tear on the centre diff. This goes for most trucks, coaches etc.

2. If you tow with all four wheels on the ground (A Frame or Hollibones) there is no need to touch the props but you SHOULD observe a low speed (20kph off the top of my head) due to the fact that you have an unbraked casualty.

Dave

kernowdragon · Feb 8, 2010

Looking at the transfer box pics, transfer neutral only disengages the input from the rest of the box; therefore the axles are still connected end to end via the diff, and can still be wound up.

beverage · Feb 8, 2010

therefore remove the prop... like i said. you only need take it off at the axle end and tie it up...

there is wear and tear like u said but they also heat up because they can't lubricate themelves.

monkeydiver · Feb 13, 2010

Thanks all, really impressed with the replies. A twin axle trailer is the best bet for me then but if I am to do that would a fully loaded 110 station wagon on the trailer be over 3.5 tons? ( I assume that is my limit using my 110 or disco?)
Thanks again all.

Pikey · Feb 13, 2010

monkeydiver said:
Thanks all, really impressed with the replies. A twin axle trailer is the best bet for me then but if I am to do that would a fully loaded 110 staion wagon plus the trailer be over 3.5 tons? ( I assume that is my limited using my 110 or disco?
Thanks again all.

NO NO NO. you've got it wrong the towing limit is a fully loaded 110 and 3500kg

The maximum weight of a 90 and trailer and trailers load must not exceed 5900kgs A 110's limits are the same or very close IIRC.

Langers · Feb 13, 2010

redhand said:
NO NO NO. you've got it wrong the towing limit is a fully loaded 110 and 3500kg

The maximum weight of a 90 and trailer and trailers load must not exceed 5900kgs A 110's limits are the same or very close IIRC.

That's only if he passed his driving test a long time ago. If you passed it more recently (myself included) you cannot drive a vehicle with a gross train weight of over 3.5 tonnes or tow a trailer of more than 750kgs.

Pikey · Feb 13, 2010

Langers said:
That's only if he passed his driving test a long time ago. If you passed it more recently (myself included) you cannot drive a vehicle with a gross train weight of over 3.5 tonnes or tow a trailer of more than 750kgs.

you can tow over 750kg but it's a complicated formulae to work out and depends on the kerbweight of the towing vehicle with a 90 it works out to about 1100kg max trailer weight IIRC.

shocker · Mar 16, 2012

On a side issue , is it still the case that a recovery vehicle needs no MOT ? What is the minimum equipment requirement for a vehicle to be classed as "recovery" ?

Yes , I know I can google all this but I would like to hear from people with real world experience . In the long ago I had a series with a harvey frost crane on that was classed as recovery along with several similar set ups....wondered what the details were these days

sible88 · Mar 16, 2012

redhand said:
you can tow over 750kg but it's a complicated formulae to work out and depends on the kerbweight of the towing vehicle with a 90 it works out to about 1100kg max trailer weight IIRC.

This is how it works ^^

sible88 · Mar 16, 2012

My 90 weighs 1890kg so that means I can tow 1610kg to maintain the up-to 3.5tonne licence I hold.

If I take my towing licence I can tow 3.5tonne as that's what my vehicle rated to.

Pikey · Mar 16, 2012

What's this raise the dead day???? fooking things over 2 years old..

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