Timing belt change - anyone in Gloucestershire?

Karls · May 6, 2015

Well, I've got the LR all stripped down to the chassis bar the bulkhead and this gives me excellent access to the front of the engine to change the timing belt. I've got all the parts I need from Turner Engineering but I haven't got one of these to undo the dog nut:
Land Rover 300Tdi, 200Tdi / Jaguar Crank Locking tool (LRT 12 080) (VS4985) | eBay

I'm not really keen on spending £60 for something I'm not going to use much more than once! So I'm looking to borrow one if I can from someone hopefully within the same County!

By the way, the gearbox is out, axles are off so I can't do the usual solutions. Any other ideas very welcome.

Willing to leave a good deposit to the borrowee or even willing to offer a suitable financial reward if they wish to show me how it's done! :biggrin1:

top drive · May 6, 2015

Make one ? You have got a welder right

Saint.V8 · May 6, 2015

I can give you dims of the hole centres etc if you want! (currently have mine - well the girlfriends - in pieces at the moment)

Karls · May 6, 2015

top drive said:
Make one ? You have got a welder right

I have indeed and will willingly make one!

Just need some dims.

Karls · May 6, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
I can give you dims of the hole centres etc if you want! (currently have mine - well the girlfriends - in pieces at the moment)

That will be really helpful, thanks!

trax · May 6, 2015

or the old classic breaker bar resting on chassis, discon fuel solenoid and blip the starter

also slogger tool or a gun

or screwdriver in flywheel

or knock the tool up.

tightening it is probably the real issue, got a gun?

toms3 · May 6, 2015

trax said:
or the old classic breaker bar resting on chassis, discon fuel solenoid and blip the starter

also slogger tool or a gun

or screwdriver in flywheel

or knock the tool up.

tightening it is probably the real issue, got a gun?

That's that I did - 30mm socket and a breaker bar rested on chassis - a quick flick on the key and it undid itself. Iv done this severel times and worked a treat!

Karls · May 6, 2015

toms3 said:
That's that I did - 30mm socket and a breaker bar rested on chassis - a quick flick on the key and it undid itself. Iv done this severel times and worked a treat!

Hmm...if only I had the wiring loom/s fitted

trax · May 6, 2015

Karls said:
Hmm...if only I had the wiring loom/s fitted

got jump leads?

neg to bat, other end to engine block.

pos to bat, other end to the starter pos stud. then you use a screwdriver to bridge the pos stud to the lil spade.

no need to spin it mad, just touch a few times.

and iirc isn't the 300tdi a 27mm socket?

Karls · May 6, 2015

trax said:
or the old classic breaker bar resting on chassis, discon fuel solenoid and blip the starter

also slogger tool or a gun

or screwdriver in flywheel

or knock the tool up.

tightening it is probably the real issue, got a gun?

Yes, I've got a gun but only running off a 50L compressor (appx 117 psi). Man enough?

trax · May 6, 2015

Karls said:
Yes, I've got a gun but only running off a 50L compressor (appx 117 psi). Man enough?

it's f f f tight on. 80nm then 90 degrees or stick something on and beat it down tight.

google also shows 270nm.

you can make a lil paint mark to see if it moves after it's on

trax · May 6, 2015

trax said:
got jump leads?

neg to bat, other end to engine block.

pos to bat, other end to the starter pos stud. then you use a screwdriver to bridge the pos stud to the lil spade.

no need to spin it mad, just touch a few times.

and iirc isn't the 300tdi a 27mm socket?

and make sure the fuel solenoid deffo doesn't have power! you don't wont to start the engine and have the nut and everything flinging off, just for a lil crank but not firing.

Karls · May 6, 2015

trax said:
and make sure the fuel solenoid deffo doesn't have power! you don't wont to start the engine and have the nut and everything flinging off, just for a lil crank but not firing.

Thanks for the advice Trax. There's no electrics live anywhere (that's a whole new can of worms that one!) so no chance of any electrical related mishaps.

Karls · May 6, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
I can give you dims of the hole centres etc if you want! (currently have mine - well the girlfriends - in pieces at the moment)

The dimensions would be really welcome, thanks.

Saint.V8 · May 6, 2015

Karls said:
The dimensions would be really welcome, thanks.

Will do that for you in the morning as it is on my desk at work (cos I am making a holding tool for mine for tomoz evening when it hopefully will all go back together)

Karls · May 6, 2015

Saint.V8 said:
Will do that for you in the morning as it is on my desk at work (cos I am making a holding tool for mine for tomoz evening when it hopefully will all go back together)

Grand job! Much appreciated and hope all goes well with yours!

Barbados · May 7, 2015

Try the impact gun first. Put about 5 to 10 drops of air tool oil down the air inlet of the gun, make sure the compressor tank is full and give it a shot with the Landy in first gear.

I was happy mine came out within a half second of the trigger pull, that's because I have a Snap On 750 ft/lbs reverse torque impact gun powered by an 80 gal compressor and tank at 135 psi regulated

Barbados · May 7, 2015

If you need any pics of the timing marks, let me know. My old belt is on still as I am awaiting parts and the Landy is under a make over.

reiny · May 7, 2015

and iirc isn't the 300tdi a 27mm socket?

That's what I thought too until I worked on a very early one recently. Early 1994 engines have a 30mm headed bolt.

top drive · May 7, 2015

i stuck my gun on - 450nm electric one .

Didnt touch my 19j nor my 200tdi.....

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