The Limits of my Landrover

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Paul D said:
It's certainly a different perspective .. it's wrong, way wrong, but you're right, it IS a different perspective.
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I didnt come on here looking for an argument, just thought I'd try and save the guy who posted a few quid. Instead of spending on tyres, spend on an advanced driving course, the knowledge gained from that will last longer than some fat, expensive tyres.
All of the people so far who say Im wrong seem to be driving heavily modded Land Rovers, Im sure there must be some people on here who enough confidence in their driving abilities to take a standard Landy off road. Maybe not. I dont really care. Each to their own, just thought Id try and help the geeza
 
dodgyrob said:
I didnt come on here looking for an argument, just thought I'd try and save the guy who posted a few quid. Instead of spending on tyres, spend on an advanced driving course, the knowledge gained from that will last longer than some fat, expensive tyres.
All of the people so far who say Im wrong seem to be driving heavily modded Land Rovers, Im sure there must be some people on here who enough confidence in their driving abilities to take a standard Landy off road. Maybe not. I dont really care. Each to their own, just thought Id try and help the geeza
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You obviously don take your landy to he same places these guys do
 
dodgyrob said:
I didnt come on here looking for an argument, just thought I'd try and save the guy who posted a few quid. Instead of spending on tyres, spend on an advanced driving course, the knowledge gained from that will last longer than some fat, expensive tyres.
All of the people so far who say Im wrong seem to be driving heavily modded Land Rovers, Im sure there must be some people on here who enough confidence in their driving abilities to take a standard Landy off road. Maybe not. I dont really care. Each to their own, just thought Id try and help the geeza
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i dont,just std with ats as best comprimise as it needs to perform on road adequately ,and you cant beat experience of growing up on a farm for learning how to get traction whilst driving
 
dodgyrob said:
I didnt come on here looking for an argument, just thought I'd try and save the guy who posted a few quid. Instead of spending on tyres, spend on an advanced driving course, the knowledge gained from that will last longer than some fat, expensive tyres.
All of the people so far who say Im wrong seem to be driving heavily modded Land Rovers, Im sure there must be some people on here who enough confidence in their driving abilities to take a standard Landy off road. Maybe not. I dont really care. Each to their own, just thought Id try and help the geeza
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Not really .. mine's not heavily modded at all, no lift, OK, HD springs, and BFG AT's .. which are the third set I've had they're _that_ good .. are all the suspension mods other than removing ARB's .. ;)

When I had road tyres it was immediately obvious they weren't up to snuff, you can feel them slipping, they won't climb out of ruts etc AT's are a great compromise, but again, when they get low on tread or the edges round off they start to slide and not climb out of ruts again .. My next set of tyres will be far more extreme, but then I'll also be lifting the suspension a tad, 'cos that's what I want and where I go ..

I'm 53, been riding and driving off-road since I was 4 .. road tyres are great on-road and won't stop people going off-road .. but AT's will allow them to do much more off-road, which is apparently what the OP wanted!
 
Mine I lifted,ats and that's it.

Works fine for me. Going to get a winch and rock sliders and that's all. Gets me through snow an through clay mud in woods. Happy
 
My d2 came with 18" wheels fitted with road tyres and when I say road tyres I mean the sort of tyre that wouldn't look out of place on a sports saloon and on the road they are the nuts no road noise road holding is as good as it can be and so on
But you'd have trouble getting out of a car boot sale car park ( wet grass )
So I've got a second set of wheels and tyres for when I go laning or pay and play and I have no douts they are better
And Ive got ROSPA gold in advance driving/riding and the hole point of that is to keep you on the road
I learnt more about driving off road from watching dukes of hazard than I did from ROSPA or IAM

So yes a STD land rover is very good off road but its built and sold as a comprise 50/50 and there for it can be improved to be better off road "but loose a bit of the on road" and a better tyre would be a good starting point if you feel you need to improve it
 
dodgyrob said:
I didnt come on here looking for an argument, just thought I'd try and save the guy who posted a few quid. Instead of spending on tyres, spend on an advanced driving course, the knowledge gained from that will last longer than some fat, expensive tyres.
All of the people so far who say Im wrong seem to be driving heavily modded Land Rovers, Im sure there must be some people on here who enough confidence in their driving abilities to take a standard Landy off road. Maybe not. I dont really care. Each to their own, just thought Id try and help the geeza
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errm hello???

I've already said i've taken a stock D2 and a stock D3 laning on standard road tyres.

Without sounding big headed I'm fairly confident with my off-road driving capability, that said, the right tyres for the job makes a HUGE difference
 
I shouldn't bother, Bump. I've learnt in the past there's just no reasoning with narrow-minded individuals, hence me not even bothering. :)
 
O.k so this is a very interesting thread.

I am BORDA higher trained and yes I learnt alot on the course which does help and I'd recommend to anyone to do a course just to improve driving skills over fitting big mods to a vehicle.

Anyone can blame the vehicle but rarely their own driving ability.

BUT! here's a BUT.

With those skills I took my Range Rover fitted with motorway tyres 1500ft up a mountain and drove around a wet peat bog field.

Exhibit A

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BUT....... here's another BUT.

On my Disco I have got Fedima Scirocco 33x12.5 Tyres and they stick like the smelly stuff to a blanket.

At no point in the recent snow did I slip or slide. It pulled a 3.5 tonne transit up a hill and a Taxi mini bus off the ice.

I very rarely get stuck in the mud. (actually I've not been stuck at all since using these but still able to drive competently and purposefully without damaging the byways or lanes.)

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Where as normal 'Mud tyres' IE Hankook MT as Mike rightly said, suck in the mud and turn them to slicks.

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So to sum up I think better ability and knowledge with the right tyres and you're good to go.
 
i grew up on farms, learnt to drive off road in fields and on tracks sometimes with big trailers on the back on series landrovers. cant remember ever seeing a farmer spend money on any off road mods to a series , defender , disco or jap pickup beyond tyres with some tread on.

to be honest i dont see a lot of point in modifying a vehicle so you can drive into a mud hole to see whats going to break next when you can drive a standard one round it.. yeah i know thats a working in the country perspective rather than a playing at being a macho guy one.






ive put me hard hat on and started digging me hole.;)
 
ricc said:
i grew up on farms, learnt to drive off road in fields and on tracks sometimes with big trailers on the back on series landrovers. cant remember ever seeing a farmer spend money on any off road mods to a series , defender , disco or jap pickup beyond tyres with some tread on.

to be honest i dont see a lot of point in modifying a vehicle so you can drive into a mud hole to see whats going to break next when you can drive a standard one round it.. yeah i know thats a working in the country perspective rather than a playing at being a macho guy one.






ive put me hard hat on and started digging me hole.;)
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Driving Byways in the UK it's against the law to 'go around it'. Landowners and the section 57 plod get a bit upset if they catch you.

It's ok when it's your land but not if you're only visiting. ;)
 
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