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The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

Shirley (sorry Si)
thats the point - do you drip feed a freelander or go japanese, rarely have probs - but when yu do its fookin expensive - swings and roundabouts?

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
ooo NI - someone hit a nerve?

It is generally recommended that peeps dont get a petrol hippoo unless they know what could happen. We all know there are good ones out there, but the risks of probs are greater.
Sum peeps take the attitude "it wont happen to me" and then are surprised when it does.
forewarned is forearmed - shirley?

No raw nerve MHM

People cant expect to dish out comments without any form of retaliation

Remember we may be outnumbered but we are never outgunned

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
Remember we may be outnumbered but we are never outgunned

outgunned - pity they are only capable of pointing in one direction

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
Shirley (sorry Si)
thats the point - do you drip feed a freelander or go japanese, rarely have probs - but when yu do its fookin expensive - swings and roundabouts?

How many X-trail drivers do you know of that would even attempt to fix the slightest problem?

Im guessing very few

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
How many X-trail drivers do you know of that would even attempt to fix the slightest problem?

Im guessing very few

three points....

1) me
2) its like the hippoo - needs the diagnostic box fur most things.
3) you dont need to very often.

yu can say that about RR owners too.

Sirus · Dec 11, 2007

Oi keep us outta yur gaylander grumblings

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
outgunned - pity they are only capable of pointing in one direction

You know that the hippo always comes out punching above its weight class

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

only when it aint boxing wiv one hand tied behind its back.Snow good sayin its a berra orfroader if its on ramps in a garage fur most of the time!

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

ffs sumone else come in on this - its gettin to be like a fone call!

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
ffs sumone else come in on this - its gettin to be like a fone call!

STEP DOWN COMRADES

Pikey · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
You know that the hippo always comes out punching above its weight class

Aye I tried that an picked a fight with a 6'2" 17st bloke and got the living daylights thrashed out of me. It's not recommended.

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
only when it aint boxing wiv one hand tied behind its back.Snow good sayin its a berra orfroader if its on ramps in a garage fur most of the time!

Actually its very good in the snow, comes into its own

For those NI troopers, Church road, Craigantlet its a must in the snow

Boxing one handed or not, how many other petrol engines do you know of still trundle on with this, physical impairment: see link

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f9/things-people-do-their-cars-48465.html

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

redhand said:
Aye I tried that an picked a fight with a 6'2" 17st bloke and got the living daylights thrashed out of me. It's not recommended.

You know what they say Redhand, the bigger they are the harder they fall.

Its the wee ones you gotta watch, they get in there like Jack Russells

Que -Blippie with the Jack Russell pics

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
Actually its very good in the snow, comes into its own

no-one is sayin it is a bad SUV - with those limitations - its jus that the petrols are so unreliable, poorly designed and put together that the good looks and orf road performance are overshadowed.

As usual LR shot themselves in both feet (and that arm), by poor execution.

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
no-one is sayin it is a bad SUV - with those limitations - its jus that the petrols are so unreliable, poorly designed and put together that the good looks and orf road performance are overshadowed.

As usual LR shot themselves in both feet (and that arm), by poor execution.

I speak only for the 1.8 k-series engine, with a few tweaks it can be twice the machine, easily obtain 200bhp from simple tuning (no diagnostic PLUG INS) and the engine will still only weigh 95kg fully dressed.

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 11, 2007

thas not much good if the VCU is shot - or the chassis cracked or.........

george_k · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
I speak only for the 1.8 k-series engine, with a few tweaks it can be twice the machine, easily obtain 200bhp from simple tuning (no diagnostic PLUG INS) and the engine will still only weigh 95kg fully dressed.

have to agree about the light weigh of the 1.8 K. It flies easily with low carriage cost.

Davec · Dec 11, 2007

Northern Irelander said:
MODERATORS - Could you remove this thread as a sticky, it does not deserve that status.

It does nothing to benefit Freelander Owners

Quite agree, the tag line for this thread is "Freelander fans, let's hear you."

Its obvouse that many of the people posting are not fans, so perhaps the tag line needs changing.

I am not claiming that the Freelander is the most reliable car in the world, or that potential owners shouldn't be warned of possible problems, but looking around there are a lot of Freelanders out there, the majority are serving their owners well and they are happy with them.

To have a sticky saying don't buy this car is a very negative attitude.

I haven't been a Landyzone member for long, but I have picked up some good advice from it, and I will be sorry to leave, but if that is the sort of extreme negative attitude it is going to have, that may be the only option open to me.

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

The Mad Hat Man said:
thas not much good if the VCU is shot - or the chassis cracked or.........

No not good!

to date we have 2 cracked chassis, nothing that a simple weld wouldnt fix and possibly some simple modifications giving extra torsional strength

The cross members on the monocoque under floor are chunky

The VCU should give less problems since 2001, as you already know - the ratio is the same as the back, stronger journals and bearings on the rear diff too.

The VCU showed many problems in the states, most Merkins bombing up and down the highway at 70/80mph. The VCU should never be subjected to that sort of driving.

The only gripes I have with a FL1 is no 2wd/4wd selection or low box.

I compromise by going Mondo Mode, until such times as yourself, Ming, Ianh1 and Co. come up with a modification

Northern Irelander · Dec 11, 2007

Davec said:
Quite agree, the tag line for this thread is "Freelander fans, let's hear you."

Its obvouse that many of the people posting are not fans, so perhaps the tag line needs changing.

I am not claiming that the Freelander is the most reliable car in the world, or that potential owners shouldn't be warned of possible problems, but looking around there are a lot of Freelanders out there, the majority are serving their owners well and they are happy with them.

To have a sticky saying don't buy this car is a very negative attitude.

I haven't been a Landyzone member for long, but I have picked up some good advice from it, and I will be sorry to leave, but if that is the sort of extreme negative attitude it is going to have, that may be the only option open to me.

Well thread was reported to moderators to be removed as a sticky,
EDITED - Thread removed as a sticky, dont know who by?
So whats your reason for leaving DaveC?

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