Pikey
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super market diesel fuel isnt good?
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chezvegas
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My 300 tdi is quieter when I use esso diesel compared to tesco or morrisons. Not sure about mpg though
discomania
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Sorry, possibly I wasn't clear, unlike Landowner you didn't consider it was badly phrased.
Anyway, what I meant was, that petrol/diesel/kero was mixed respectivly but not together. That is to say; diesel from somewhere in England may be mixed with some French stuff etc...
The BS standard for fuel doesn't actually go much towards the quality of the fuel rather what it cannot have in it.
Clearly that article and it's author on "www.simplemotoring.co.uk" live up to it's name and are pretty simple, unfounded and without any industry professional giving details - his/her argument is that the tankers are seen filling at the same bit, clearly they don't know how fuel depots run the pipelines as they can purge the line and switch it to any other tank more or less. An outlet that filled up one tank with petrol could fill up another tank with diesel a few minutes later.
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Hate to tell you but they all use the same refineries, go and sit outside Kingsbury fuel terminal or the one at the Fort in Birmingham, supermarket and 'branded' fuel wagons going in and out all day long. Now someone may correct my but I'm fairly sure that they all fill up at the same filling stations inside the terminals.
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I was told by a tanker driver mate that they all use the same refinery, but supermarket fuel doesnt have the the selected additives in it like Shell, Esso & BP wold have in it thats why its chapter.
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Pikey
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yep 100%
You've hit it on the head. as said in the link I posted. it's the additives that differ not the fuel..
yup totally agree i used to drive a tanker out of the immingham refinery all the fuel comes from the same tank no matter who you are just shell and BP have a small key they insert that pumps an additive in at the same time as the fuel
From my little experimentation over the last 3 weeks, personally I found that the diesel from our local Tescos made the car feel more 'diesel like', rougher sounding engine, not as smooth to rev and not quite as many miles to the tankful.
BP normal diesel made the car sound quieter, the engine was smoother, it felt like it revved more freely and I got between 25-50 miles more per tank.
BP Ultimate and Shell 'whatever it's called' had all the benefits of the normal diesel whilst feeling like it had more power but I saw no increase in fuel economy (probably due to it feeling like I had more power and therefore exercising my right foot more).
These are my personal findings and as such mean jack, but I will try to stay away from Tescos fuel. That said, when I have vouchers that give me 50p per litre savings at Tescos, I will be filling up with Tescos fuel!
BP normal diesel made the car sound quieter, the engine was smoother, it felt like it revved more freely and I got between 25-50 miles more per tank.
BP Ultimate and Shell 'whatever it's called' had all the benefits of the normal diesel whilst feeling like it had more power but I saw no increase in fuel economy (probably due to it feeling like I had more power and therefore exercising my right foot more).
These are my personal findings and as such mean jack, but I will try to stay away from Tescos fuel. That said, when I have vouchers that give me 50p per litre savings at Tescos, I will be filling up with Tescos fuel!
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I'll still be using biodiesel that I buy for £1.10 per litre from a guy just outside Burton on Trent, after all it's a defender which is basically a tractor with a bigger cab on it, it still does 30 ish mpg and is 30p a litre cheaper than at the pumps.
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Correct
The 'Branded' fuels have a kind of DNA of additives that are put into their fuel to their own specification.
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Simple: supermarket stuff is ok but not as good as the brand stuff eg ketchup. Same for fuel.
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Did anyone watch 5 gears report on fuel ?
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The idea of the different refinement of fuels is to improve the way the car using it performs. That's right. The different fuels are purer (E.g. The Excellcium, Ultimate, V Power...) Now here is where the difference becomes clear, what happens is: the impurities which supermarket and the 'cheaper' fuels have in them actually coat the inside workings of your engine, excess is shoved into cylinders making an unclean burn in petrol engines, and more particulates out of diesel exhausts.
The inside coating of engines this makes results in poor MPG, worse performance, bad reliability, repair costs, engine wear, and as more of the coating is pulled off, higher exhaust emissions. This is much, much higher in Supermarkets fuel (their 'Super' is equivalent of normal fuel), lower in normal fuel - standard oil company forecourt - and is actually the reverse in 'Ultimate, Super, Excellsium, and V Power'. What they actually do, is clean off all the inside coating of engines improving performance, MPG, reliability, lifetime, and emissions, they also have lower particulates and emissions than the normal fuels since they have virtually no impurities.
The inside layer of engines from cheap fuels is long term, depending on how cheap the petrol was; since the advanced fuels are pioneering, all cars over ten years old will have this problem. Using the advanced fuels for a year will significantly reduce this issue improving everything!
Although this is expensive, I think it is definitely worth it! The health of my engine is important to me (especially since she has 210,000 miles!). The fuels will easily half exhaust results, ensuring Land Rovers are no longer susceptible to this MOT failure with enormous cost. This is why using the fuel once won't make any difference! I always run my cars on BP Ultimate only. Supporting the British Economy! And even better I get double the Nectar card points using it! (One per litre standard fuel, two for Ultimate) I hope you can now see the advantages of BP Ultimate, I assure you, I can feel the vast difference it has made for me!
The inside coating of engines this makes results in poor MPG, worse performance, bad reliability, repair costs, engine wear, and as more of the coating is pulled off, higher exhaust emissions. This is much, much higher in Supermarkets fuel (their 'Super' is equivalent of normal fuel), lower in normal fuel - standard oil company forecourt - and is actually the reverse in 'Ultimate, Super, Excellsium, and V Power'. What they actually do, is clean off all the inside coating of engines improving performance, MPG, reliability, lifetime, and emissions, they also have lower particulates and emissions than the normal fuels since they have virtually no impurities.
The inside layer of engines from cheap fuels is long term, depending on how cheap the petrol was; since the advanced fuels are pioneering, all cars over ten years old will have this problem. Using the advanced fuels for a year will significantly reduce this issue improving everything!
Although this is expensive, I think it is definitely worth it! The health of my engine is important to me (especially since she has 210,000 miles!). The fuels will easily half exhaust results, ensuring Land Rovers are no longer susceptible to this MOT failure with enormous cost. This is why using the fuel once won't make any difference! I always run my cars on BP Ultimate only. Supporting the British Economy! And even better I get double the Nectar card points using it! (One per litre standard fuel, two for Ultimate) I hope you can now see the advantages of BP Ultimate, I assure you, I can feel the vast difference it has made for me!
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Your not telling me anything. I've explained it, take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me. I wouldn't be sitting outside the depot anyway.
discomania
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How much? He's ripping you off!
I hope you can now see the advantages of BP Ultimate, I assure you, I can feel the vast difference it has made for me![/QUOTE]
Do you work for BP,
Its always a few pennies a litre dearer than the local shell, to my mind thats to pay for there fcuk up in America a couple of years ago
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I use shell or Texaco just their standard stuff and dump in a bottle of redex or forte now and then
But if the engine doesn't work what difference does the type of fuel make?
lol
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But if the engine doesn't work what difference does the type of fuel make?
When he finally gets fed up and decides to torch it for the insurance money he needs to know it'll burn properly
