super market diesel fuel isnt good?

toby1963 · Dec 17, 2012

Supermarket fuel makes my 200 tdi defender belch white smoke, mind you, crashing it into a tree shook some soot out of it:doh:

Dr_evil · Dec 17, 2012

ratty said:
I've come across supermarket petrol that won't ignite with a naked flame. Summit tells me that isn't normal.

Hmmm :scratching_chin: I wonder.

ratty · Dec 17, 2012

Dr_evil said:
Hmmm :scratching_chin: I wonder.

Pull the fuel pipe off, prie the pump so it squirts into a suitable catching impliment and then apply flame to rest of landy....erm .... I mean..... syphoned fuel.

Dr_evil · Dec 17, 2012

ratty said:
Pull the fuel pipe off, prie the pump so it squirts into a suitable catching impliment and then apply flame to rest of landy....erm .... I mean..... syphoned fuel.

Would that petrol that wouldn't ignite come from morrisons ?

drewster · Dec 17, 2012

Is this why my prop fell off ?

DEFENDER90-DAZ · Dec 17, 2012

You haven't filled the petrol tank full of water have you Dr E ???

Dr_evil · Dec 17, 2012

DEFENDER90-DAZ said:
You haven't filled the petrol tank full of water have you Dr E ???

Dunno

depends what ****e morrisons pumps are putting out

DEFENDER90-DAZ · Dec 17, 2012

Hey - that might be it mate!!!

Get some fresh stuff in it

ratty · Dec 17, 2012

Dr_evil said:
Would that petrol that wouldn't ignite come from morrisons ?

No. It came from the orange ones. The MOD around here were banned from using the yellow ones a couple of years back though due to problems with fuel.

chunkymunky · Dec 17, 2012

ratty said:
I used to do 100k a year but due to a change in working practices I only do around 70k a year now.

If I used supermarket fuel in my truck it felt like I was towing a car at all times and I got about 50-80 less to the tank (120 lite tank).

Since we switched over to a rubbish fuel card at work (most of our fuel is now supermarket) we've had a lot of our vehicles start playing up and needing new ip's and injectors.

Once the supermarkets pulled out of the fuel card deal the problems with our trucks suddenly ceased.

I've come across supermarket petrol that won't ignite with a naked flame. Summit tells me that isn't normal. I'll happily put supermarket fuel in my works vehicle but I won't let it go in my own vehicles fuel tanks.

Key fuels card?

We had that it was dire. And never a petrol station anywhere near when needed it

ratty · Dec 17, 2012

chunkymunky said:
Key fuels card?

We had that it was dire. And never a petrol station anywhere near when needed it

How did ya guess.

We had allstar before that.

When I'm working nights it's a 10 mile drive to the nearest one that's open and a further 14miles to the next closest if that happens to be out of fuel or on a shift change etc.

Dr_evil · Dec 17, 2012

DEFENDER90-DAZ said:
Hey - that might be it mate!!!

Get some fresh stuff in it

ratty said:
No. It came from the orange ones. The MOD around here were banned from using the yellow ones a couple of years back though due to problems with fuel.

I only use Shell or Texaco usually but went for the yellow one for the V8 as I was being cheap, might try it before I do the bump start or see if I can get the fuel to ignite well properly before dumping the remaining 2L into the tank

chunkymunky · Dec 17, 2012

ratty said:
How did ya guess.

We had allstar before that.

When I'm working nights it's a 10 mile drive to the nearest one that's open and a further 14miles to the next closest if that happens to be out of fuel or on a shift change etc.

Cos we ditched it when they demanded a prepayment per month of nearly 10k for my old company

CJ2a · Dec 17, 2012

much the same as the rest of you guys with both my audi and series 2 i can feel the difference in pocket and performance by using bp ultimate or orlen verva to using ukraine **** stuff even the way my old series starts up is far better on polski bp than ukraine stuff makes the thing smoke and feel asmatic and the diesels are like fxcking black smoke machines yet put decent fuel in them (the tractors and big toys we run) and no mobile smoke screen

3.5 efi · Dec 17, 2012

run mine on shell as a rule. put £45s worth of morrisons finest in t'other week cos it were handy and was like driving a diesel. have since topped up twice, £40 and £35 and is almost back to it's old self.

clivesP38 · Dec 17, 2012

I use ADSA, Tesco and a local station with my RR petrol V8, peugeot 207 diesel and rover 420 diesel and have never noticed any difference in any of them! The only difference I ever had with the rover, extra 70 miles to the tankful, was because the petrol station I used to use was on a slant! and more fuel would fit in the tank before cutting off.

landowner · Dec 17, 2012

Brother in law works at Morrisons and he wont use their diesel in his car, says its rubbish

discomania · Dec 17, 2012

Glenbirnie said:
Does anyone know if there is any truth in this?

They were saying supermarket diesel doesnt have detergents in so doesnt keep injectors etc clean and also has a higher wax content and lower octane rating.

????

Supermarket fuel is bought on the market (usually in Holland). Basically the refineries make fuels, they just keep pumping the stuff out, often they do make more than demand requires and this stuff doesn't go straight to the forecourt, it goes to the market where it is sold to whoever will buy it. At fuel markets often different types of fuel are thrown into the same tank, that is to say, petrol/diesel/kero that was made last week and petrol that was made today and from different refineries are mixed. The fuel is then brought to the UK to a depot where it will be pumped off a ship into tanks and the tankers filled up, so it comes out the same gates but may have originated in Russia etc (It isnt necessarily the best of British).

I tend to use shell, but when I have used Asda or Sainsburys I have noted a reduced range on a full tank and this was back when my trips were always the same: work and back Mon-Fri, a long trip once a fortnight and on average about 8 small local trips per fortnight. On the Disco it was about 40/45miles less on supermarket fuel.

Pikey · Dec 17, 2012

discomania said:
Supermarket fuel is bought on the market (usually in Holland). Basically the refineries make fuels, they just keep pumping the stuff out, often they do make more than demand requires and this stuff doesn't go straight to the forecourt, it goes to the market where it is sold to whoever will buy it. At fuel markets often different types of fuel are thrown into the same tank, that is to say, petrol/diesel/kero that was made last week and petrol that was made today and from different refineries are mixed. The fuel is then brought to the UK to a depot where it will be pumped off a ship into tanks and the tankers filled up, so it comes out the same gates but may have originated in Russia etc (It isnt necessarily the best of British).

I tend to use shell, but when I have used Asda or Sainsburys I have noted a reduced range on a full tank and this was back when my trips were always the same: work and back Mon-Fri, a long trip once a fortnight and on average about 8 small local trips per fortnight. On the Disco it was about 40/45miles less on supermarket fuel.

Absolute fooking BS..

All fuel sold in the UK has to meet the same BS standard. mixing petrol with kero or diesel would have HMRC desending like the valkeries from Valhalla..

landowner · Dec 17, 2012

Think he means petrols are mixed and keros are mixed etc

I'm not usin it any way, sticking to Bio

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