So the Freelander tranmission is C##p, or is it???

edge · Dec 22, 2009

I know I shouldn't but...
I had to tow my old mans disco out of a bit of a pickle on sunday he was being gallent and put two wheels off the Asterton approach to the Long Mynd to let a car pass and couldn't any traction to get going again.
Is my clutch cheaper than a garage call out?

Skynet · Dec 22, 2009

If I remember correctly, Diff Lock turns Nearside Front and Offside Rear together (at least it did on a 90 I got stuck in a slimy field) so the same side icefield would have probably been overcome

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 22, 2009

Skynet said:
If I remember correctly, Diff Lock turns Nearside Front and Offside Rear together (at least it did on a 90 I got stuck in a slimy field) so the same side icefield would have probably been overcome

yu must have had a reeeeeeeelly weird 90 then

. It just locks the front and rear drive.

Hippo · Dec 22, 2009

Good thread. Nowt wrong with Freelanders.

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DD3 · Dec 22, 2009

Andy131 said:
Very similar to the explanation given about the slitties, electrically operated hydraulic coupling just before the rear diff. Works well in snow, mud and sand. The advantage being the terrain response, modifying the engine, gearbox (auto), and transmission to suit.
Must admit to having had a great deal of fun the last few days, owning a 4x4 in general is like owning a soft top in the UK, you only get to use it a few weeks a year in anger - but it put a great big smile on your face when you do.

Many thanks for this explanation. So do the rear wheels engage automatically as a result of fronts loosing grip (as with VCU) or do you flick a switch? Pressume this is more hi tech than FL1. Are you pleased with yours?

ming · Dec 22, 2009

gaylanders are better than fenders un disco's in the snow and tarmac so that only leaves the rough stuff. . . . . .and they will beat most other 4x4's so they int that bad just dont get the doors wet

Russell Jupp · Dec 23, 2009

Well, bollox to all that say 'burn it'. December 22nd 2009. Devon. Snow covered country lanes. Ice. Steep hills. Freelander. Perfect. Period.

nathan5346 · Dec 23, 2009

ming said:
gaylanders are better than fenders un disco's in the snow and tarmac so that only leaves the rough stuff. . . . . .and they will beat most other 4x4's so they int that bad just dont get the doors wet

tis a pity tyres feck the diffs up

Optimus Prime · Dec 23, 2009

I managed to get mine up my favourite greenlane this afternoon without any problems, despite the snow/ice/slush/mud. nice to know the traction control and vcu are still working as they should. (only a matter of time, I'm sure...)

Russell Jupp · Dec 23, 2009

Well all i can say is..diff's seem ok, as do the tyres. At least... they are are still round, and have air in them. Everthing works as i would expect it to. 4wd. Winter. nuff said. goodnight. qctms.

nathan5346 · Dec 23, 2009

Skynet said:
If I remember correctly, Diff Lock turns Nearside Front and Offside Rear together (at least it did on a 90 I got stuck in a slimy field) so the same side icefield would have probably been overcome

And the prize fer the daftest post this week goes to........gorra be a wind up surely....?

Chur · Dec 23, 2009

Darmain said:
Now this is my thinking. If this were a defender then when the front wheel hits the ice then there is gonna be a lot of slip on that wheel. It will probably keep going but not very effectively, until the rear wheel gets on the ice. Now both front and rear diffs are unable to load up so we come to a halt..... Right, so what tools do I have to fix this? Low box, well that doesn't do anything in this situation. Wait, centre diff lock.... Which will just get both left hand wheels spinning together. Am I right in thinking here that the only way to get out of this is axle lockers, which I don't believe are factory fit (Assumption).

So what did the Hippo do? When I hit the ice, the TC light came on, there was a lot of clicking from the traction control and brake modulator, there was a little vibration. BUT, it didn't stop, it didn't slow and, hands off the wheel, it didn't even drift. It just carried on and cleared the ice.

The above is true. You have however, missed out on the fact that Defenders come (have for a number of years) with TC. They would of just gone up the hill too.

IMHO there is nothing really wrong with Freelanders. They dont have the off road attributes of the other models, but thats not what they are about. I view them as a Land Rover "Light."

Pikey · Dec 23, 2009

Skynet said:
If I remember correctly, Diff Lock turns Nearside Front and Offside Rear together (at least it did on a 90 I got stuck in a slimy field) so the same side icefield would have probably been overcome

As Daft said Difflock on a 90/110 locks the propshafts. but both axles are still free to spin a wheel if one side or alternate sides get on the slippery stuff. ya need Axle diff lockers if ya wanna stop ya wheels from spinning.

Pikey · Dec 23, 2009

Chur said:
The above is true. You have however, missed out on the fact that Defenders come (have for a number of years) with TC. They would of just gone up the hill too.

IMHO there is nothing really wrong with Freelanders. They dont have the off road attributes of the other models, but thats not what they are about. I view them as a Land Rover "Light."

yup along with fiat panda's and Ovlov XC, Xtrails etc.

chromiumuk · Dec 23, 2009

nathan5346 said:
And the prize fer the daftest post this week goes to........gorra be a wind up surely....?

Probably is but there's an outside chance of it being a complete bellend without any clue of how his Landy worked.

ianda12 · Dec 23, 2009

You're right!! Technically 2 wheel drive cars are really only one wheel drive and 4WD are only 2 wheel drive unless they have diff. locks or limited slip diffs. My old series 3 would not move if I was spinning one front wheel and one rear wheel. The same with my rangerover classic. My Freelander is very good in slippery conditions, ( as with any 4WD that has traction control ) its just a pity they used such an unreliable engine and a VCU instead of a lockable middle diff.

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 23, 2009

i have to (rather begrudgingly) admit that the auto 2/4wd on the slitty has been a bloody godsend these last few days when swapping between frozen rain on ice to tarmac to slush to ........ if the fl2 is as good as my slitty, it beats engaging/dissengaging/engaging difflock all day and then worriting in case yu forget to take it orf

.

ming · Dec 23, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
i have to (rather begrudgingly) admit that the auto 2/4wd on the slitty has been a bloody godsend these last few days when swapping between frozen rain on ice to tarmac to slush to ........ if the fl2 is as good as my slitty, it beats engaging/dissengaging/engaging difflock all day and then worriting in case yu forget to take it orf .

YER DURTY SLITTY TWAITER

The Mad Hat Man · Dec 23, 2009

i refer yu to the post made by your good lady.

no fook orf!

ming · Dec 23, 2009

The Mad Hat Man said:
i refer yu to the post made by your good lady.

no fook orf!

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