Sell defender? Keep defender? Something in between?

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Do I...?

  • Keep the defender and make it more comfortable

    Votes: 9 40.9%
  • Keep the defender and buy a cheap D2 and kit that out for expeditions

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Sell the defender buy a LandCruiser

    Votes: 3 13.6%
  • Sell the defender buy a Shogun

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • Total voters
    22
wonder if you can rinse a rooftop aircon from a refrigerated truck or something

Good idea, def worth looking into. I could attach it to the roof rack infront of the tent. Just go to a breakers yard and ask?

Could move the fridge onto a wheel arch a build a box below it? Gets it out the way, vents are free + storage draw/box

The fridge is about 10cm too wide for the arches, it is a big bugger! but if I did a draw the same height as the arches it might be able to sit on the shelf too.
 
Getting back to the original question.

As the Australians say: If you want to go for a drive in the outback get a Land Rover.


If you want to come back get a Toyota.

What are fuel prices like out there - might be a game changer.
Just looking on the bay of E - this looks like a tempter if the wallet will stretch that far ...
 
You are never going to get a comfy ride out of a 90 , too short a wheelbase . My 110 is and has been a comfy ride on autobahns and outback corrugated tracks. It has aftermarket roof mounted aircon , that kept it cool in 45c ambient . A 110 is a good size (read minimum) for extended travel for two max 3 people , to stay within weight limitations . thinking you are going to travel at 75 miles an hour for extened distances with a 300tdi or td5 is not going to add to its reliability . I cruise at around 100kmh , and thats with a 3litre BMW turbo diesel engine. this gets me a less tiring drive , optimises fuel consumption , the faster the more you need to concentrate. You also dont see anything as you are travelling . Re Lcrsr , the 4.2 or 4.5 get around 20mpg , and thats the diesel (really push them and you can get below 15 ( from experience) . A friend of mine is off thru morroco again shortly to the Gambia. (Charity thing) he went in a old audi last year , and is using a berlingo van this time. Because of our love of the 4wd lifestyle , we think we need NASA levels of prep and equipment , to get us to places that the locals drive around in mazda vans . If you want reliability and comfort think about a Bentley Mulsanne , after all a silver spirit took an elderly couple from Cape town to cairo , its on the net . JMHO
 
I still reckon D2

Apart from overhangs Defender ability off road.

TD5 is a good performer and reliable

I would just change the injector seals and injector loom for piece of mind and take a couple of spare air suspension bags
 
Work mate has a TDI300 and thinks my car has a much nicer engine, and both are nicer than TDCi
 
Mapped Td5 with a 1.2 transfer box cruises now at 80 without the valves bouncing through the bonnet.
 
Getting back to the original question.

As the Australians say: If you want to go for a drive in the outback get a Land Rover.


If you want to come back get a Toyota.

What are fuel prices like out there - might be a game changer.
Just looking on the bay of E - this looks like a tempter if the wallet will stretch that far ...

Fuel prices are quite a lot cheaper over there, especially on diesel as it isn't as heavily taxed as here.

If I like the next expedition and want to do more I think I will look at either a Land Cruiser or a D2.

I assumed it would be too wide but thats why you build a box underneath! Extra storage box under the fridge!

I like the idea actually. Will give this more investigation.

You are never going to get a comfy ride out of a 90 , too short a wheelbase . My 110 is and has been a comfy ride on autobahns and outback corrugated tracks. It has aftermarket roof mounted aircon , that kept it cool in 45c ambient . A 110 is a good size (read minimum) for extended travel for two max 3 people , to stay within weight limitations . thinking you are going to travel at 75 miles an hour for extened distances with a 300tdi or td5 is not going to add to its reliability . I cruise at around 100kmh , and thats with a 3litre BMW turbo diesel engine. this gets me a less tiring drive , optimises fuel consumption , the faster the more you need to concentrate. You also dont see anything as you are travelling . Re Lcrsr , the 4.2 or 4.5 get around 20mpg , and thats the diesel (really push them and you can get below 15 ( from experience) . A friend of mine is off thru morroco again shortly to the Gambia. (Charity thing) he went in a old audi last year , and is using a berlingo van this time. Because of our love of the 4wd lifestyle , we think we need NASA levels of prep and equipment , to get us to places that the locals drive around in mazda vans . If you want reliability and comfort think about a Bentley Mulsanne , after all a silver spirit took an elderly couple from Cape town to cairo , its on the net . JMHO

Is that the dakarchallenge thing? I saw that yesterday and reckon I want to give it a go at some point.

I cruised at 100k on the trip last time, which was fine. It just wouldn't do that up hills. It is also nice to have the option of going a bit faster if you need to, such as being late for the channel tunnel.

Where did you get the roof mounted aircon from?

sounds like you need a nice diesel chevy suburban :D armchair seats, front and rear air con, lots of power :D

get a southpaw, they are cheaper in the uk and more plentiful, probably better if you are mainly going to use it on the continent

acres of space inside too

one on the bay

1998 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 6.5 T DIESEL 2500 HEAVY DUTY AUTO (pearl white & metalli

Wouldn't fit in my drive.

I still reckon D2

Apart from overhangs Defender ability off road.

TD5 is a good performer and reliable

I would just change the injector seals and injector loom for piece of mind and take a couple of spare air suspension bags

I am considering one, they are very cheap. If I let the tyres down my defender would fit in my garage, so I could put it it in there for a year or so and forget about it.

So I guess the main choices I have now are:

- Shut up moaning and take the 90
- Buy and additional D2 and take that

On one hand my 90 is mostly kitted out for expedition, e.g. extended tanks, snorkel, lights, CB, spots, dual batts...

But on the other hand other than the snorkel and tanks everything else should transfer onto a D2.
 
If you want that extra 'reliability' then you want to go for a post 2002 one with the 15p engine. Electrics are better along with the engine.
Can't afford anything more than £2k if I keep the defender... What is the difference reliability wise? I know the plastic rods in the engine, what else?
 
I cant think of much for £2k that would be any good really, plough the £2k in to the Defender instead, just this time on less "blue led shiny things" and more boring oily bits, :p

I say this now as a fat 41 year old, I was your age once, so I understand.
 
You mentioned before swapping out the front pannels what about doing a body rebuild? Sound proof the **** out of it, fix all the little problems, maybe a disco transfer box and build in a dedicated, yet removable rear storage space.
 
I cant think of much for £2k that would be any good really, plough the £2k in to the Defender instead, just this time on less "blue led shiny things" and more boring oily bits, :p

I say this now as a fat 41 year old, I was your age once, so I understand.

Now now, there aren't actually that many blue LEDs, just the fridge and the stereo!

I have actually gone off the disco idea somewhat. If I bought it I wouldn't have anything left to fix it!

You mentioned before swapping out the front pannels what about doing a body rebuild? Sound proof the **** out of it, fix all the little problems, maybe a disco transfer box and build in a dedicated, yet removable rear storage space.

Those all sound like good options, though I already have a disco transfer box. So priorities would be:

- better racking and use of space. I have some ideas now, and I think I am going to move the fridge and build a draw as you suggested.
- fix extended fuel tank so it actually fills. Are there any laws that say I can't fill it up from inside the rear area? Obviously with a proper filler cap and everything.
- try to get a bit more power from the tdi so it at least keeps at 60 on the motorway. I'm thinking lift pump, fuel filter(s), play with tuning then boost pin.
 
:D good! Post pics as you do it!

Don't believe so, mate of mine has an SJ run off jerry cans in the boot, passes MOTs as an advisory for temp fuel tank. Could you not fit a TD5 tank under the load space floor?
 
:D good! Post pics as you do it!

Don't believe so, mate of mine has an SJ run off jerry cans in the boot, passes MOTs as an advisory for temp fuel tank. Could you not fit a TD5 tank under the load space floor?

That's what it has, a TDi tank at the front and a TD5 tank at the back. The problem is that filling is done via the TDi filler that branches off to the back tank. This means that the pipe goes slightly uphill and as a result it is very very hard to get diesel into the back tank.

I think to get it working properly I will have to get a new Y shaped filler made as the bit going off to the back is too low.

I don't want to add another filler on the outside as I don't want to cut a hole in the side of the defender!
 
just use a cheap diaphragm pump to transfer fuel from your td5 tank into your main tank at the flick of a switch and viccy vircy
 
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