L322 Restraint Control Module Not Recognised

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Hello All,
I have my airbag light on consequently can not pass my MOT :-(
I have attempted to reprogram the existing module in SDD but this always fails, I have now replaced the module with a second hand one which was not recognised....but not the original failing one is not recognised either. So I am not sure if the original one was faulty in the first place or something else may have been causing the problem....anyone got any pointers please?
 
I know very little about the can-hs bus but it doesn't seem right that it can't see any of them modules, IMO you have something dragging down the whole bus.
 
I am not sure if I am looking in the right place for this issue. I built a clean VM, reinstalled the software and was able to see all the modules, until I disconnected the RCM and tried to connect the new one... now back to the same problem.....
 
C1PLR said:
Hello All,
I have my airbag light on consequently can not pass my MOT :-(
I have attempted to reprogram the existing module in SDD but this always fails, I have now replaced the module with a second hand one which was not recognised....but not the original failing one is not recognised either. So I am not sure if the original one was faulty in the first place or something else may have been causing the problem....anyone got any pointers please?
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Whats the last 8 of chassis number
 
If only the rcm is offline its not a can network fault depending on what year vehicle is if its k bus or can network. Can high should get a reading of 2.7 and can low 2.3 the only wiring you need to test if a module is not responding is. power reading should be battery voltage +or- 0.5v easiest way to check earth is meausure voltage at earth wire at module if above 1.0v earth needs to be checked if you let me know what year vehicle is i will let you know wiring colours and pin locations
 
Can high and low are always on separate pins. Basic measurements can be taken with a multimeter basically both voltages added together should add to 5 volts. pico scope is the best way to diagnose can issues as when a can trace is viewed at 20 miliseconds the pulses of 0 1 code can be seen
 
Having googled it I agree about the two pins and now know why it's done that way but given that they are high speed pulses I wouldn't have thought a multimeter will work.
 
Ye multimeter will work if you get 2.7v on can high and 2.3 v on can low can system should be communicating as long as module has power earth and can it should be online. The other way to test a can network is disconect battery and measure resistance at obd port can network should have resistance of 120ohms as all can network have 2 terminating resistors each measuring 60 ohms
 
I have wiring/network dias for a 2011 but not sure if they would be the same as by the looks you are 2007.

@C1PLR
 
Miloman59 said:
Ye multimeter will work if you get 2.7v on can high and 2.3 v on can low can system should be communicating as long as module has power earth and can it should be online. The other way to test a can network is disconect battery and measure resistance at obd port can network should have resistance of 120ohms as all can network have 2 terminating resistors each measuring 60 ohms
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Ok just watched a very interesting youtube tutorial (it was American but still). The modules on the CAN HS transmits data strings of 0's & 1's at upto 1MBS so I don't see how a multimeter can measure that in any meaningful way, I still think it needs a scope to see if the data bits are valid or just noise, i.e all 0's or all 1's or even 0v or 5v if seriously screwed.

Also from what I remember 2 x 60ohm resistors in parallel give you 30ohms. The youtube video has 120ohm terminating resistors which IMO gives you 60ohms.

Interesting stuff to me but probably putting some to sleep :D
 
Alternative to PicoScope is the Hantek 1008C for a fraction of the price. The cost varies a bit depending on how many probes to require. The software wants Windoze, but also works ok using a VM on Macbook. It will show the CAN databus is working but doesn't decode the data.

I used mine to diagnose a misfire using Cam & Crank sensors, plus spark probe to check each HT lead in turn . . . .really easy.
 
pwood999 said:
Alternative to PicoScope is the Hantek 1008C for a fraction of the price. The cost varies a bit depending on how many probes to require. The software wants Windoze, but also works ok using a VM on Macbook. It will show the CAN databus is working but doesn't decode the data.

I used mine to diagnose a misfire using Cam & Crank sensors, plus spark probe to check each HT lead in turn . . . .really easy.
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I've used mine to test my FBH, amp output when I had a melted speaker, and height sensors. Mine came with all 8 probes. As you say for the price it was a no brainer.
 
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