Ratty's Poll - Security devices.

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Mosfet said:
An excellent thread with loads of useful information.
I would be interested in opinions on Cat 2 immobilisers. I have a clutch claw and disklok and I am also considering a Cat 2 immobiliser (around £200) - are these easy to circumvent?
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Having been shown how easy it is to circumvent an immobiliser, I wouldn't be happy with just that.
I'd go for a cat 1 and tracker and physical security.
All depends on your view point. Some people go with 'it's insured so feck it' others what to do as much as possible to stop it getting nicked.
I'm more in the mind set of, do as much as possible and if it does go then I won't be kicking myself.

You just have to find your own balance of security measures and the pain in the arse of using them.

Always remember though if they really want it they will find a way and take it.
 
Reading through this thread has scared the ****e out of me!
Regardless of the fact my LR is worth next to nothing lol

Cars should be classified under the new terms of right to self defence in your own home, whereby anything parked on your property falls under that category...
Leaving you to develop security systems that make the car seem relatively straightforward to break into, until the would be car thief tries to drive away the car! which then shuts off deadlocks the doors and rapidly fills the interior of the car with some form of anaesthetic gas such as chloroform, nitrosoxide or xenon!
Also has automatic police notification so you don't even have top get out of bed:D
 
jrmroxx said:
Clutch claw, has been succesfull for me so far, touch wood..!!!!;)
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I used a clutch claw very happily until I read in the slolen section that one had been defeated using a jack. I've now gone over to a full coverage plate.

EDIT: I always feel tempted to fit an alarm mine to the interior of the cabin to clobber a would-be thief with a concussive soundwave that would render them unfit to continue the theft, but I guess that could potentially see you in court.
 
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Thor1950 said:
how many are getting defeated???? out of how many sold
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I don't know - I don't have access to the stats. I guess you could do some research yourself if you're interested???

EDIT: To elaborate, I'm relying primarily on anecdotal evidence i.e. people saying they were using a clutch claw and that it was defeated or others detailing how simple it is to defeat them - e.g. use of a jack or cutting the ends of the pedals off, sliding the thing off and riding away on the stubs.

I don't think anybody really knows how many of these things are actually being used. People reporting stolen landys rarely seem to detail what security was in use at the time. So, who knows??
 
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RAGNAR BENSON said:
I don't know - I don't have access to the stats. I guess you could do some research yourself if you're interested???

EDIT: To elaborate, I'm relying primarily on anecdotal evidence i.e. people saying they were using a clutch claw and that it was defeated or others detailing how simple it is to defeat them - e.g. use of a jack or cutting the ends of the pedals off, sliding the thing off and riding away on the stubs.

I don't think anybody really knows how many of these things are actually being used. People reporting stolen landys rarely seem to detail what security was in use at the time. So, who knows??
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most had none, only factory installed. Then the come on here with my pride and joy is missing.

Think those few are far and few compared to what is sold. A hiab defeats anything. It is a matter of making them harder to steal and look for a easier target.


Today in the news a freelander was stolen and crashed into a house and injured 2 girls sitting on a couch, Big fooking hole in the wall
 
Thor1950 said:
most had none, only factory installed. Then the come on here with my pride and joy is missing.

Think those few are far and few compared to what is sold. A hiab defeats anything. It is a matter of making them harder to steal and look for a easier target.


Today in the news a freelander was stolen and crashed into a house and injured 2 girls sitting on a couch, Big fooking hole in the wall
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Yep, agree with that. It's just about making it as much of a pain in the backside to nick as possible. If a hiab get's involved, then that's that.

I wonder if the freelander was nicked using a stolen key? They're modern vehicles - I would've thought they'd be a pig to steal without a key.
 
RAGNAR BENSON said:
Yep, agree with that. It's just about making it as much of a pain in the backside to nick as possible. If a hiab get's involved, then that's that.

I wonder if the freelander was nicked using a stolen key? They're modern vehicles - I would've thought they'd be a pig to steal without a key.
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Me I like the look and mounting/operation of X engineering pedal lock system( fook what DOC says:p) and there shift lever lock thing between the shift and transfer case lever
 
Thor1950 said:
Me I like the look and mounting/operation of X engineering pedal lock system( fook what DOC says:p) and there shift lever lock thing between the shift and transfer case lever
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You'd be better off with a pedal lock and a steering lock. Pedal and gear stick locks till mean it can be moved, sadly.
 
SASBOB said:
cat2 Immobiliser for £200??? Someone`s having you over mate, i supply and fit for £110 :)
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Do you have a web page for those? I reckon your immobiliser could probably be triggered from my tracking system... meaning that it could be activated and deactivated from our web site or phone text.

Many of the people who buy our systems are also looking for immobilising options... we usually point them towards a solenoid fuel valve (diesel) or an interruption to the circuity somewhere on a petrol.

Seems like there could be an opportunity to promote your system along with mine :D
 
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