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storm99 said:
Maybe if people were proud of their country instead of constantly highlighting its faults things could be better. There's far worse places to be.
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I've lived and worked in many country's, I can't think of many that are a worse place to be then the UK at the moment. Even the police shoot to kill at the least excuse these days. Are you not the one who lives in Sweden?
 
GRATCH said:
:pop2: Here we go with the xenophobia again.

It's nothing to do with who they let in, it's more to do with the workshy scrotes who have no intention of getting a job and expect everyone else to keep them in designer gear and latest gadgets. Feral rats was a description I heard describing the morons....erm....'running riot' (what an apt cliche) and they should be exterminated like the vermin they are.
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sorry bro i think your wrong 5 years ago i had more work than i could do booked up for months at a time and i was takeing £1000 to£1600 a week now you cant find a job. england was on the up befor all the **** turned up. the good ones that did work have made there money and ****ed off home with are money and left us with the **** ****s to look after come and take a drive round the back streets of london and youll see wot im talking about its a changed place ....i think the english should put someone in power that gives a **** about us first and not last but even thats fixed so wot chance do we have wot a shame and a **** hole england has become everything has gone up just to look after the **** heads id send them all back and let them keep ****ing there own place up:doh:
 
Datatek said:
I've lived and worked in many country's, I can't think of many that are a worse place to be then the UK at the moment. Even the police shoot to kill at the least excuse these days. Are you not the one who lives in Sweden?
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mate england is a nice place but the **** that has come over has no respect for england and they are just here to suck the place dry they come from very diffrent back grounds and are showing are kids thats its ok to do wot ever when ever with not much come back at all if any. we could be much wrost off but wot a beautiful place this was and now it is just getting a **** hole the little **** that was shot was just that a little **** crack dealer who was a night mare. in life you get out wot you put in and thats the life he wanted and thats how it turned out so **** him
 
Datatek said:
Wow that's a great contribution, labour bankrupted the country again just as they have done every time they have been in power. You really made a difference! Labour, the party of "Don't do as we do, do as we tell you" They have done nothing for the working man other than continue to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Then you have Gordon Brown, the finacial wizard who sold our gold reserves at $275 dollars an ounce so he could have more money to squander. It's beyond words.
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Keith we may have a slight difference of opinion here. Evertime a Labour government was elected prior to Blair all the rich large companies,Banks, investors moved their money out of the country. That is because they knew Labour would tax them to help the working class. This always made it almost impossible to run the country. New Labour under Blair changed that and got in to bed with the large investors treating much in the same way as say a Heath Tory government would have done in the seventies. By getting in bed with the Banks they failed to control them because they would only support Labour if left alone. The drip down economics that new Labour borrowed from the Tories did not work because the Banks prefered to make there investments abroad in a more volatile but larger profit area. This left Labour with a problem no investment no jobs for the workers. So rather than try to gets the Banks back in line (which they knew would see them out of power) they tried to finance the lower classes in other ways. If the bankers investment had been sound all would have been well, but they went tits up. Then the government basically paid back what the billionaires of this country had lost by putting there money in Banks that made bad investments. The working class now find themselves having to finace that repayment. So whilst the Labour government does bare some responsibility the Bankers bare far more, this coupled to a new Tory lead government who have drip down as a fundimantal dogma has caused the present deeper problem. They still refuse to put any sort of genuine control on Banks therefore we still have no internal investment. As far as they are concerned it's a case of those who usually suffer suffering a little bit more. Actually they don't give a **** as long as they remain millionaires. It's a bit like a reverse Robin Hood syndrome, take from the poor to finance the rich and hope the rich will let a few scraps fall from the table.
 
jamie1210 said:
mate england is a nice place but the **** that has come over has no respect for england and they are just here to suck the place dry they come from very diffrent back grounds and are showing are kids thats its ok to do wot ever when ever with not much come back at all if any. we could be much wrost off but wot a beautiful place this was and now it is just getting a **** hole the little **** that was shot was just that a little **** crack dealer who was a night mare. in life you get out wot you put in and thats the life he wanted and thats how it turned out so **** him
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I agree. the police would have followed the bloke for at least a few months and known what was going on... ie Known weapon carrier,known gang member. one less **** on the streets and one less to feed in a cushy prison at our expense..
 
juiceyv8 said:
I agree. the police would have followed the bloke for at least a few months and known what was going on... ie Known weapon carrier,known gang member. one less **** on the streets and one less to feed in a cushy prison at our expense..
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Yeay....lets have summary execution on the streets.....or maybe public punishment.....we could use football stadiums, take the kids to see a few hands chopped off......it will sort everything out, everyone will be smiley and get on and the sun will always shine and pigs will fly
 
My stand on it is to make bureaucracy do all the work, they want to get me to respond-send a person.

A fundamental question is:- is the state is democratic it should work in the interests of the people, what we have is a veneer of democracy.

Freedom is a mere illusion.
The poll tax riots were the public showing that they did not agree with statue jurisdiction.

Now my opinion is that I do not recognise statue jurisdiction as it is all part of a twisted method of enforcing policies against you.

For true justice we want a “court of the record” this is where the jury guided by the judge decide.

What we have currently is a crown conflict of interest summary justice system.

So I do not and will not understand them or their jurisdiction- it makes it incredibly difficult for them to tuck you up- couple that with adverse publicity and they don't pursue it generally.
 
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where I'm working 1 of the houses has reached the celotex/plasterboarding stage. It's been done by a couple of Eastern Europeans. one of em earned about 300 quid for a days work laying the celotex on the floors prior to screeding. Firm reckons they can't any get any Englishmen to do the job as it takes 3 times as long to get the job done..
 
wammers said:
Keith we may have a slight difference of opinion here. Evertime a Labour government was elected prior to Blair all the rich large companies,Banks, investors moved their money out of the country. That is because they knew Labour would tax them to help the working class. This always made it almost impossible to run the country. New Labour under Blair changed that and got in to bed with the large investors treating much in the same way as say a Heath Tory government would have done in the seventies. By getting in bed with the Banks they failed to control them because they would only support Labour if left alone. The drip down economics that new Labour borrowed from the Tories did not work because the Banks prefered to make there investments abroad in a more volatile but larger profit area. This left Labour with a problem no investment no jobs for the workers. So rather than try to gets the Banks back in line (which they knew would see them out of power) they tried to finance the lower classes in other ways. If the bankers investment had been sound all would have been well, but they went tits up. Then the government basically paid back what the billionaires of this country had lost by putting there money in Banks that made bad investments. The working class now find themselves having to finace that repayment. So whilst the Labour government does bare some responsibility the Bankers bare far more, this coupled to a new Tory lead government who have drip down as a fundimantal dogma has caused the present deeper problem. They still refuse to put any sort of genuine control on Banks therefore we still have no internal investment. As far as they are concerned it's a case of those who usually suffer suffering a little bit more. Actually they don't give a **** as long as they remain millionaires. It's a bit like a reverse Robin Hood syndrome, take from the poor to finance the rich and hope the rich will let a few scraps fall from the table.
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Everyone has a different view of the same thing Tony, but historically Labour have bankrupted the country every time they have been in power and done little or nothing for the workers they claim to represent. From my point of view Scargill sacrificed the miners in the pursuit of politcal power, holding the country to ransome by cutting off the power. That will not be your point of view I'm sure. London docks were shut down by union restrictive practices that made the docks uneconomic. It amazed me that they could turn a cargo ship round in Tema harbour in 3 days with half the men plus modern machinery that took 3 weeks to do the same thing in London. Unions should be banned from political affiliation and stick to looking after their members.
We now need people to stand up to the government on the streets if necessary.
Look at the figures, (which often lie) if they are to be believed, 80% of new job vacancies are been taken by foreigners. I reckon there are at least 4 or 5 times more immigrants in the UK than the government admit to. I've nothing against immigrants (I am one in France) but the sheer numbers are unsuportable, especially as a fair proportion come just for the social handouts. They are quite open about it when interviewed on French TV as to why they are heading for the UK, benefits. Stop entitlement to benefits for immigrants until they have a 5 year work record and you stop the bulk of undesirable immigration.
The NHS is overstretched by the numbers many who arrive with various ailments including AIDS plus the medical tourists like rich Arabs that go to the Uk for free medical treatment. As a UK citizen who has paid 44 years contributions I am no longer entitled to free NHS treatment because I've been out of the country for more than 6 months. If I go back to the UK it will be as an asylum seeker to qualify for medical cover. You coudn't make it up, pure Alice in Wonderland.
 
redhand said:
where I'm working 1 of the houses has reached the celotex/plasterboarding stage. It's been done by a couple of Eastern Europeans. one of em earned about 300 quid for a days work laying the celotex on the floors prior to screeding. Firm reckons they can't any get any Englishmen to do the job as it takes 3 times as long to get the job done..
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It's a sad situation where those of us who want to do something constructive are either beaten into a situation that is financially unworkable as we have had with our family electrical business.
For example repairing £450k machines you don't want to be being paid £15 hour for two people as it just isn't worth the risk. (prior melt down it was worth £50 per two Electricians)

Or local projects none of the local tradesman get a look in.

Weston-Super-Mare Pier was done by several firms at below cost,this is not a sustainable situation.
 
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jamie1210 said:
england is a once was something but now has gone to **** if you think the goverment give a **** about you your crazy they just want to **** you . the rich will get richer and the poor are ****ed why have they let in all the **** and now want to cry about it. they know wot ther doing and could not give a **** about me or you they have let in a very diffrent kind of bread and its there kids that will be running the place soon give it ten years and there will be a riot every week . the goverment could not run a ****ing tap
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I don't much like your use of language but I think I agree with what you are trying to say.
Don't forget that within 20 years at current rates the Muslims will be in the majority, watch what happens then.
 
fanatic said:
It's a sad situation where those of us who want to do something constructive are either beaten into a situation that is financially unworkable as we have had with our family electrical business.
For example repairing £450k machines you don't want to be being paid £15 hour for two people as it just isn't worth the risk. (prior melt down it was worth £50 per two Electricians)

Or local projects none of the local tradesman get a look in.

Weston-Super-Mare Pier was done by several firms at below cost,this is not a sustainable situation.
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Worthing pier was done by local English contractors at 4 times the price it could have been done for. Contractor very happy only works 3 months in 12.
 
Self assessment-I owe **** all and own **** all:D

Take me to court and all I will own is the clothes I stand in and a £10 mobile phone
 
Datatek said:
I don't much like your use of language but I think I agree with what you are trying to say.
Don't forget that within 20 years at current rates the Muslims will be in the majority, watch what happens then.
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oh good grief.....I'm off to tinker with my landy....have fun with your fearful ramblings
 
fanatic said:
Self assessment-I owe **** all and own **** all:D

Take me to court and all I will own is the clothes I stand in and a £10 mobile phone
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You sound like you have had a hard time somewhere along the line. You can get over it or stay bitter and twisted. Getting over it is better from personal experience.:)
 
Datatek said:
You sound like you have had a hard time somewhere along the line. You can get over it or stay bitter and twisted. Getting over it is better from personal experience.:)
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Codswallop.. Bitter & twisted is so much more Fun and more productive than meek and mild.. :rolleyes: I know this from me own personal eggsperiance..


:D :p
 
Question for you all:-
Statue law is consent of the governed allegedly!

I'm not one of the queen subjects (slave) and 25 years to visit Taunton is **** poor.

My fundamental argument is why should we be expected to pay an undetermined amount, for an unspecified number of items and have no redress when performance is far below acceptable level.

So I help people and avoid the State.
 
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