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moremuckmush · Aug 15, 2021

the_wolf said:
The rear of your motor looks fine but the front looks pretty damn low. I would be looking to see what's fitted on there that shouldn't be

Yep will investigate and see if any paint or colouring to the springs can be seen , the pics are taken on my drive which is a fairly incline ..will get some pics on the flat, dont get me wrong .. it dont look crazy dragster style but definately much more lift at the rear but not as prominent on an incline , front springs could be goosed or incorrect then so let's have a gander to see

Turboman · Aug 15, 2021

moremuckmush said:
Yep will investigate and see if any paint or colouring to the springs can be seen , the pics are taken on my drive which is a fairly incline ..will get some pics on the flat, dont get me wrong .. it dont look crazy dragster style but definately much more lift at the rear but not as prominent on an incline , front springs could be goosed or incorrect then so let's have a gander to see

Your front springs may well have sagged a bit, because most of the weight is over them, and they take the load of braking.
Could be that replacing those will deal with your concern.

moremuckmush · Aug 15, 2021

Turboman said:
Your front springs may well have sagged a bit, because most of the weight is over them, and they take the load of braking.
Could be that replacing those will deal with your concern.

That would be a result

mick 1986 · Aug 17, 2021

moremuckmush said:
No panic pal no rush

Here are the measurements from mine. It looks more level than the measurements show. I do carry a load of “****e” in it, so that’s probably affecting it a little.

F LHS = 507-508

F RHS = 492-493

R LHS = 515 - 516

R RHS = 529 - 530

All millimetres, all taken with the tape roughly in the centre of the centre cap, then read the tape at the arch line.

moremuckmush · Aug 17, 2021

mick 1986 said:
Here are the measurements from mine. It looks more level than the measurements show. I do carry a load of “****e” in it, so that’s probably affecting it a little.

F LHS = 507-508

F RHS = 492-493

R LHS = 515 - 516

R RHS = 529 - 530

All millimetres, all taken with the tape roughly in the centre of the centre cap, then read the tape at the arch line.

That's good info so I know really that I may have a little sag on the front but the rear is definitely sitting higher when comparing to yours which are quite close in measurements, my thinking now , drop the rear for sure which in turn may allow the front to raise a little ? if not Its no concern if I can get it looking fairly level through the body line I will be happy , its which springs to go for now to get what I need

mick 1986 · Aug 17, 2021

moremuckmush said:
That's good info so I know really that I may have a little sag on the front but the rear is definitely sitting higher when comparing to yours which are quite close in measurements, my thinking now , drop the rear for sure which in turn may allow the front to raise a little ? if not Its no concern if I can get it looking fairly level through the body line I will be happy , its which springs to go for now to get what I need

If it helps, I fitted the RKB101111 rears, and I think it was NRC8044 on the front (google both part numbers as I fitted the longer of the two front springs).

moremuckmush · Aug 17, 2021

mick 1986 said:
If it helps, I fitted the RKB101111 rears, and I think it was NRC8044 on the front (google both part numbers as I fitted the longer of the two front springs).

Nice one .. thanks for that cheers

mick 1986 · Aug 17, 2021

moremuckmush said:
Nice one .. thanks for that cheers

No problem. I’m not sure if they will be the correct springs for yours, but they are what I thought would do for me.

moremuckmush · Aug 17, 2021

mick 1986 said:
No problem. I’m not sure if they will be the correct springs for yours, but they are what I thought would do for me.

Yep of course but it's a good reference starting point

Rougharse Racing · Aug 19, 2021

I have a ex-military 110 and the rear is really high on that. I am not sure if the military use standard spring rates or heavy duty.
As I run mine pratically empty I had a look for softer springs, but the bigggest problem is that the 110 uses wider springs than 90's and Discovery's.
The softest springs are the ones designed for use with a self-leveling unit, butI imagine that they would be lethal without one. Next up are standard springs, which is possibly what you have on yours, so you are stuck unless yours has heavy duty springs.
If you want to replace the fronts, I think 110's are the same as Discovery rears, incase you have some knocking about.
The only time that the raised rear has been an issue on mine is when geting in and out of the back and getting it level when sleeping in the back.

moremuckmush · Aug 19, 2021

Rougharse Racing said:
I have a ex-military 110 and the rear is really high on that. I am not sure if the military use standard spring rates or heavy duty.
As I run mine pratically empty I had a look for softer springs, but the bigggest problem is that the 110 uses wider springs than 90's and Discovery's.
The softest springs are the ones designed for use with a self-leveling unit, butI imagine that they would be lethal without one. Next up are standard springs, which is possibly what you have on yours, so you are stuck unless yours has heavy duty springs.
If you want to replace the fronts, I think 110's are the same as Discovery rears, incase you have some knocking about.
The only time that the raised rear has been an issue on mine is when geting in and out of the back and getting it level when sleeping in the back.

Thanks for this , good feedback , I have been contemplating sorting the front height now as this may be the best way forward knowing I can get a spring that I know is going to make a difference

moremuckmush · Aug 19, 2021

So still in a bit of a quandary as to how to tackle it but 80% sure it's the front springs I'd be better addressing as it's either heavy duty or standard utility springs as an option for the back and my gut feeling is the springs on the rear are standard , stiff but not teeth rattling stiff. So we know the front may have some sag , winch and winch bumper fitted which adds to the load but shouldn't be over the top for standard springs, we know the front is sitting approximately 80mm lower than the rear , measuring hub centre to arch , so one last ask please, what spring to go for, do I just fit one of these jack up kits that are available, 50mm is probably all I need lift wise as I think its best to be nosing down a tad rather than sitting speedboat style , or is it best to fit 50mm taller springs , thanks in advance once again

Rougharse Racing · Aug 19, 2021

moremuckmush said:
So still in a bit of a quandary as to how to tackle it but 80% sure it's the front springs I'd be better addressing as it's either heavy duty or standard utility springs as an option for the back and my gut feeling is the springs on the rear are standard , stiff but not teeth rattling stiff. So we know the front may have some sag , winch and winch bumper fitted which adds to the load but shouldn't be over the top for standard springs, we know the front is sitting approximately 80mm lower than the rear , measuring hub centre to arch , so one last ask please, what spring to go for, do I just fit one of these jack up kits that are available, 50mm is probably all I need lift wise as I think its best to be nosing down a tad rather than sitting speedboat style , or is it best to fit 50mm taller springs , thanks in advance once again

The problem is that the front suspension is more or less fully laden all the time and the rear is designed to take an extra 3/4 tonne.
When they haver a bit of weight on, they do sit quite a bit lower.
The fronts do look like the top or bottom three coils are coil bound, but this is normal.

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