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On or around Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:10:33 +0100 (BST),
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:

>On Thursday, in article <[email protected]>
> [email protected] "David_LLAMA 4x4" wrote:
>
>> In a slightly different note, mainly because I haven;t got a clue about
>> what most of you are on about!, remember that some of us can;t get broadband
>> even if we wanted it!!
>> We simply can't have it - and getting the 500 intterested names is also
>> going to be aproblem as we only have 300 phone numbers going through our
>> our BT eschange!!
>> Dial-up lives on - even if only in the middle of nowhere!!

>
>BT have dropped that system, though it may not be any advantage to you,
>and are rolling out Broadband generally. The interest levels under the
>old system will have some effect on the timing for specific exchanges,
>and there are still going to be rural customers too far from an
>exchange.


now that's something I didn't know. I'm not actually too displeased with
the 64Kb ISDN dialup, I'm just ****ed off that it costs considerably more
than broadband, albeit in fact, for 512Kb contended at 50:1, the actual
guaranteed max service I get from this'n (128Kb) is in fact better.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
 
"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> now that's something I didn't know. I'm not actually too displeased with
> the 64Kb ISDN dialup, I'm just ****ed off that it costs considerably more
> than broadband, albeit in fact, for 512Kb contended at 50:1, the actual
> guaranteed max service I get from this'n (128Kb) is in fact better.


With Zen I've never had contention problems. If you clock a download and
work out the throughput, it's reliably 512Kbps, providing of course the
thing at the other end is up to it.

David


 
On or around Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:08:45 +0100, "David French"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> now that's something I didn't know. I'm not actually too displeased with
>> the 64Kb ISDN dialup, I'm just ****ed off that it costs considerably more
>> than broadband, albeit in fact, for 512Kb contended at 50:1, the actual
>> guaranteed max service I get from this'n (128Kb) is in fact better.

>
>With Zen I've never had contention problems. If you clock a download and
>work out the throughput, it's reliably 512Kbps, providing of course the
>thing at the other end is up to it.


I suspect that when everyone has broadband, this will end up being the
limiting factor; server speed and server connection speed will govern how
fast things happen. After all, that's where there are likely to be
bottlenecks.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to
a great lie than to a small one" Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
from Mein Kampf, Ch 10
 
On Friday, in article
<[email protected]>
[email protected] "Austin Shackles" wrote:

> On or around Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:08:45 +0100, "David French"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> now that's something I didn't know. I'm not actually too displeased with
> >> the 64Kb ISDN dialup, I'm just ****ed off that it costs considerably more
> >> than broadband, albeit in fact, for 512Kb contended at 50:1, the actual
> >> guaranteed max service I get from this'n (128Kb) is in fact better.

> >
> >With Zen I've never had contention problems. If you clock a download and
> >work out the throughput, it's reliably 512Kbps, providing of course the
> >thing at the other end is up to it.

>
> I suspect that when everyone has broadband, this will end up being the
> limiting factor; server speed and server connection speed will govern how
> fast things happen. After all, that's where there are likely to be
> bottlenecks.


I hope websites don't start relying on the high speed.

I think the big advantage is that the connection is always live, without
tying up a phone line that could be used for a voice call. Unless you
do want live video, I don't think contention will be a problem for most
of us. Start a file download, and leave it to run.

(We drive Land Rovers -- we're not the sort of people who hurry)

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"History shows that the Singularity started when Sir Tim Berners-Lee
was bitten by a radioactive spider."
 
On or around Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:50:53 +0100 (BST),
[email protected] ("David G. Bell") enlightened us thusly:

>I hope websites don't start relying on the high speed.


bet they will, buggrem.
>
>I think the big advantage is that the connection is always live, without
>tying up a phone line that could be used for a voice call. Unless you
>do want live video, I don't think contention will be a problem for most
>of us. Start a file download, and leave it to run.


mind the BT Home Highway (TM) here has 4 connections, 2 analog, 2 digital, 3
numbers and the ability to have any to connections concurrently active. 's
actually a nice setup, I just wish it weren't so bloody expensive - just had
the phone bill :-(


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Soon shall thy arm, unconquered steam! afar Drag the slow barge, or
drive the rapid car; Or on wide-waving wings expanded bear the
flying chariot through the field of air.- Erasmus Darwin (1731-1802)
 
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