Hiya IrishRover
Thank you for the welcome, and in fact thank you all for the warm welcome.
Despite my initial inability to resist poking a bit of fun, given the hacking type comments of the thread thus far, i hope you can all forgive me, see the funny side as much as i did, and mostly accept that i am by no means some shop talking corporate suit type who cares more about the bottom line than helping others.
I am just a chap who is as much a victim of whatever it is about Land Rovers that causes us all to love such often troublesome vehicles as anyone.
Hiya Rick
Fancy Bumping into you here
Indeed, It does seem like a nice place to hang out, and indeed i am fortunate enough that my job of the last near 15 years does mean that i do have a wealth of knowledge that as you will already know, I am and have always been quite willing to share and use to help out whenever and wherever i can. I certainly do prefer halping someone out with a technical problem over bangin on with shop talk.
But i guess despite my not really wanting to, i can't avoid talking shop a bit here though, as the thread is a question about i am most able to supply the best answer to and any information about, and for sure it's probably what most readers would want to know even if it means slipping into BBS mode for a short while..
IE FCR for P38.
Announced a day before RSW announced the start of something that would amount to no more than is already availiable in the form of the ELM327, our FCR was released with all CAN bus system coverage.
We added CAN bus coverage first as its the most standardised and covers the most systems in the most models for the same effort. We did have to cut some corners to get the FCR out before Christmas though, ie Multi lingual support and self locking to VIN. And we have spent the first couple of weeks this year adding that in. Which effectively means we are already behind scheduled developments by a couple of weeks :doh:
Digressing a little and with your indulgence, I noticed that VIN locking was also mentioned and while it seems like a big drawback to our systems and i accept this can put people off, but i would like to try and ratify that in the hope some might better appreciate why we do that at all and why it really is not a bad thing.
For us developing diagnostic hardware or software is no part time hobby, For us diagnostic equipment cannot and must not be some hit and miss affair. After all, you can't measure voltages or resistances with a multi meter you cannot trust absolutely 100% and working with dodgy and mis leading test equipment can often be worse than having none at all.
So we only produce, professional equipment that has nothing less that the best degree of communication reliability that there is and we are renowned for this, along with having the best access capability and support functionality that there is. This extended development and endless testing, especially on the older timing problematic vehicle systems does however come at a price, and once upon a time our equipment cost several thousands and was only really affordable initially by businesses, who really did and do make the most of it.
However we felt that enthusiasts should also have the chance to buy and benefit from our equipment. As such we changed or marketing to provide the ability to purchase only software for specific vehicle systems and we produced much lower cost hardware. After all I got into this to help people, aspecially Land Rover lovers like me most of all.
Many were glad of this lower cost equipment, especially smaller businesses, but still the cost of a system to cover an entire single car like the P38 was well over a grand.
However, In exchange for limiting the usability of a system to one single vehicle which true "my own Vehicle" entusiasts should not mind, i did however impliment single Vehicle licencing for more like a third of that.
I won't mention exact figures, as i believe that is presently inapropriate and disrespectful of commercial aspects of this site to do so.
I respect therefore that single a VIN system might be seen as a drawback but only if you consider our system in any way comparable to some others, based on price alone. But you must consider in another system will also be extremly dependable and reliable in operation, doing what it is supposed to absolutely flawlessly, and will be backed by extensive development, testing and the know how that we have alone paid a very heavy price to have availaible to build into any of our products.
Which brings me neatly back onto topic.
The FCR is already astounding those (CAN BUS vehicle owners) who have purchased it, with its sheer speed and how well it just does exactly what it says on the Tin in such a fuss free manner. Even some who have one of our full systems are often at a loss for words.
This would perhaps be good enough news alone if we were attempting to develop and add to the FCR and its capability and coverage from scratch, having no prior "how to" knowledge and experience to help us. However as everyone knows, regarding earlier vehicles like the P38 we already have very extensive in house expertise on our side. We know excatly what the FCR needs to do and how to make it do it. In essence meaning that there is no question of If we can do it, or how good it might be at all, only how long it will take us !!!
Although we may be a couple of weeks behind schedule on FCR development, that's really not so bad, and we would easily hope to have 2002 on L322 systems added within the next 2 or 3 weeks. After then its on to the P38's systems next and although this might take 2, 3, 4 or more weeks, i am guessing that earlier Gems Vehicles are the most needy, i would have my team concentrate on those first and happily consider a part complete release that would cover them first if we got bogged down over much. So You really are looking like mid to late Feb before we can release P38 FCR capability, although i do have to say that although it will represent quite a tool for the money, with the Pound Growing stronger against our base Euro though and me just having updated our exchange rates, i would in all fairness have to advise anyone to check out current full system prices. You might be plesently surprised.
Now i really do have the full corporate suit on i guess. So before i take it off again, and perhaps in relection and recompense of the boards indulgence in allowing me to wear it for this short while. I would like to announce that i would happily offer any Landyzone.co.uk member (ie anyone who is not obviosly a newbie) a 10% discount on all BBS products.
Thank you for the welcome, and in fact thank you all for the warm welcome.
Despite my initial inability to resist poking a bit of fun, given the hacking type comments of the thread thus far, i hope you can all forgive me, see the funny side as much as i did, and mostly accept that i am by no means some shop talking corporate suit type who cares more about the bottom line than helping others.
I am just a chap who is as much a victim of whatever it is about Land Rovers that causes us all to love such often troublesome vehicles as anyone.
Hiya Rick
Fancy Bumping into you here
Indeed, It does seem like a nice place to hang out, and indeed i am fortunate enough that my job of the last near 15 years does mean that i do have a wealth of knowledge that as you will already know, I am and have always been quite willing to share and use to help out whenever and wherever i can. I certainly do prefer halping someone out with a technical problem over bangin on with shop talk.
But i guess despite my not really wanting to, i can't avoid talking shop a bit here though, as the thread is a question about i am most able to supply the best answer to and any information about, and for sure it's probably what most readers would want to know even if it means slipping into BBS mode for a short while..
IE FCR for P38.
Announced a day before RSW announced the start of something that would amount to no more than is already availiable in the form of the ELM327, our FCR was released with all CAN bus system coverage.
We added CAN bus coverage first as its the most standardised and covers the most systems in the most models for the same effort. We did have to cut some corners to get the FCR out before Christmas though, ie Multi lingual support and self locking to VIN. And we have spent the first couple of weeks this year adding that in. Which effectively means we are already behind scheduled developments by a couple of weeks :doh:
Digressing a little and with your indulgence, I noticed that VIN locking was also mentioned and while it seems like a big drawback to our systems and i accept this can put people off, but i would like to try and ratify that in the hope some might better appreciate why we do that at all and why it really is not a bad thing.
For us developing diagnostic hardware or software is no part time hobby, For us diagnostic equipment cannot and must not be some hit and miss affair. After all, you can't measure voltages or resistances with a multi meter you cannot trust absolutely 100% and working with dodgy and mis leading test equipment can often be worse than having none at all.
So we only produce, professional equipment that has nothing less that the best degree of communication reliability that there is and we are renowned for this, along with having the best access capability and support functionality that there is. This extended development and endless testing, especially on the older timing problematic vehicle systems does however come at a price, and once upon a time our equipment cost several thousands and was only really affordable initially by businesses, who really did and do make the most of it.
However we felt that enthusiasts should also have the chance to buy and benefit from our equipment. As such we changed or marketing to provide the ability to purchase only software for specific vehicle systems and we produced much lower cost hardware. After all I got into this to help people, aspecially Land Rover lovers like me most of all.
Many were glad of this lower cost equipment, especially smaller businesses, but still the cost of a system to cover an entire single car like the P38 was well over a grand.
However, In exchange for limiting the usability of a system to one single vehicle which true "my own Vehicle" entusiasts should not mind, i did however impliment single Vehicle licencing for more like a third of that.
I won't mention exact figures, as i believe that is presently inapropriate and disrespectful of commercial aspects of this site to do so.
I respect therefore that single a VIN system might be seen as a drawback but only if you consider our system in any way comparable to some others, based on price alone. But you must consider in another system will also be extremly dependable and reliable in operation, doing what it is supposed to absolutely flawlessly, and will be backed by extensive development, testing and the know how that we have alone paid a very heavy price to have availaible to build into any of our products.
Which brings me neatly back onto topic.
The FCR is already astounding those (CAN BUS vehicle owners) who have purchased it, with its sheer speed and how well it just does exactly what it says on the Tin in such a fuss free manner. Even some who have one of our full systems are often at a loss for words.
This would perhaps be good enough news alone if we were attempting to develop and add to the FCR and its capability and coverage from scratch, having no prior "how to" knowledge and experience to help us. However as everyone knows, regarding earlier vehicles like the P38 we already have very extensive in house expertise on our side. We know excatly what the FCR needs to do and how to make it do it. In essence meaning that there is no question of If we can do it, or how good it might be at all, only how long it will take us !!!
Although we may be a couple of weeks behind schedule on FCR development, that's really not so bad, and we would easily hope to have 2002 on L322 systems added within the next 2 or 3 weeks. After then its on to the P38's systems next and although this might take 2, 3, 4 or more weeks, i am guessing that earlier Gems Vehicles are the most needy, i would have my team concentrate on those first and happily consider a part complete release that would cover them first if we got bogged down over much. So You really are looking like mid to late Feb before we can release P38 FCR capability, although i do have to say that although it will represent quite a tool for the money, with the Pound Growing stronger against our base Euro though and me just having updated our exchange rates, i would in all fairness have to advise anyone to check out current full system prices. You might be plesently surprised.
Now i really do have the full corporate suit on i guess. So before i take it off again, and perhaps in relection and recompense of the boards indulgence in allowing me to wear it for this short while. I would like to announce that i would happily offer any Landyzone.co.uk member (ie anyone who is not obviosly a newbie) a 10% discount on all BBS products.
