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following on from my solenoid probs
i charged both batteries and it has made no difference.

i have enclosed a pic of how the solenoid is wired
as you look at the pic the live in is top right the connection below that goes to pin a on the left of the winch

and the 2 connections on the left of the solenoid go to f1 and f2 on the winch..
i have tried everything that has been suggested and nothing helps i can only assume the solenoid may be wired wrong.

can anyone spare me some time to come and have a look for me?
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You dont say if you have tested the winch motor.

1. Put the winch in freespool.

2. Disconnect the positive lead from the battery (leave the ground lead attached).

3. Label and disconnect the three cables that run from the control pack to the three posts on the motor.

4. Stamped next to the three posts on the motor will be "A", "F1" and "F2". Run a small jumper wire (5"-6" dead lead, 8 ga. will work just fine) from "A" to "F1" and put power from the battery (jumper cables work good) to "F2". The winch motor should run in one direction at this time.

5. Next, place the jumper wire from "A" to "F2" and put power from the battery to "F1". The winch motor should run in the opposite direction at this time.

Its a really simple process and will allow you to eliminate the winch motor as a problem. If this works, it means the winch is fine and it is something to do with your solonoid/and/or wireing.

give it a try and let us know.

also, can you use a multimeter?

G
 
I would also try a good earth for the solenoid, mine would not do much more than click when i refitted it, turned out to be a bad earth from the solenoid.

Also just notice on the pic, are you getting contact/short between F1 & F2 on the solenoid . maybe worth a look?
Good luck, i hate electrics and dont envy you at all.
 
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Check it's not shorting out anywhere. Mine was shorting out on the two long bolts that go from one end of the motor to the other, put some heatshrink in the bolts and job done.
 
As Griffdowg said. It's just like a starter motor at the end of the day. Connect it one way and it should spin then connect it the other way and it spins to other way
 
Check it's not shorting out anywhere. Mine was shorting out on the two long bolts that go from one end of the motor to the other, put some heatshrink in the bolts and job done.

Thats interestring George. what was it shorting on?

Im having trouble with my winch to! run the test and looks like the motor is dead, but its hardly been used and it was working not long back and done nothing strenuous since. Need to whip it off AGAIN and have a look sie. might insulate those motor housing bolts as a precaution. how could you tell it was them?

G
 
I was getting shocks off the winch wire on the body work and the cables were getting very warm (red & black). Took it to a local guy that does starter motors. He was about to give up when he found the bolt was touching 1 of the 4 coils that run around the outside (inside).
It's a starter motor at the end of the day, so it can't be hard.
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Try this guy if you do get stuck, I was about to have a look at his stock to see what would fit but I got mine going again.
 
Mine looked like it was dead as well, but cos the wires were getting very warm it takes the short cut acting more like a welder than a winch.
 
very interesting George. Thanks.

I had to "persuade" my bolts to line up when I put it back together :D

but it spooled on 30m of line (with a few initial sparks off the body) then settled in fine. 1 week later... nothing.

G
 
well after another few moments head scratching 2nite,
i did the testing of the motor by linking cables accross pin a and f1 and then connecting a live.

nuffin not even a spark tested the power and theres defo power from the cables.
reconnected to solenoid clunk nuffin,tested the terminals and power is coming from solenoid.

so the brand new motor i was given we done the same it up on the floor using the above
process and it spun straight up..

so after all the eves of banging me head against a wall it looks like me motor wasnt recieving the power but dunno why.

all i gotta do now is get a new inner arm bearing for the new motor as i cant get the old one of the shaft and hopefully it will be job done.

so thanks to all that gave me advice..hopefully it will be sorted..
 
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