My 88"

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pauldg

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So, my 88"...

I got this back in 2004 as something knackered. I did a fair bit of work to it (most of which appears to be blocked from memory ;) ). I do remember I painted it, with a 4" roller and a 1/2" brush for the edges - using kitchen/bathroom paint - it was only intended to be a temporary 'tidy up'.

As these temporary things often turn out, it was anything but :D

Anyway, in 2008 we moved to france - the 88 took us there and here she is enjoying a relaxing time being a 'garden car':

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Looking pretty good for 3 year old indoor paint!

A year-and-a-bit later and we moved back. Unfortunately there was no room in the budget to bring her back so she had to stay behind and guard the house while it was for sale - reasoning it shouldn't take too long to sell we'd get her back over then..........

Best laid plans and all that eh? Nearly 4 years later the house finally sold and the 88" got carried back in January '13 - this was the first time I'd seen her in over a year :(

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My poor baby! First order of business was definitely a wash (there is even a bucket on the roof in that pic) - I tried being gentle but it seems she likes it a bit rough, to shift the green I ended up using scouring pads... Let's see how that roller applied kitchen paint likes that!

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It didn't really care much as it happens - a few areas went a bit on the thin side but not exactly noticeably so. I'm quite impressed with that paint (especially considering that before I slapped it on the LR it had been sat outside for at least one winter).

And that was that for a bit - other things happened and somehow she was always a lower priority - then the Disco cambelt went. I reasoned that she was going to be quicker and cheaper to get on the road.

First I had to see if/how she ran. Well, she didn't :( no spark. So the points got cleaned and the spark returned, but still no starting.

Fuel then.

Now, the fuel had been sat in the tank for getting on for 5 years - suffice to say it had gone off a little. A little being that I couldn't set it on fire using a lighter.

Drain the tank and the carb, stick in some new fuel and hand pump it through (that little lever on the engine mounted fuel pump is quite handy) and.... Success! I replaced the indicator lenses with some spares I had about as they had gone nearly white, gave her a quick check over and booked her first MOT since 2007............

Straight through - nice.

Not so nice was on the way home the heater stopped blowing and she started to run really roughly - the running was caused by the fuel filter collapsing. When I drained the tank she was on a bit of a side slope so it seems there was still quite a bit of crud left in the bottom of the tank which got stirred up by movement and adding fuel, then dragged into the filter. This made the next job a clean of the entire fuel system. Oh, and the heater not blowing any more turned out to be the fan had totally shattered (I'm still looking for a fan or complete blower unit, just not looking very hard).

Since then, I've rebuilt the carb (I reckon it's now as good as it can get - all new internals and lapped the body) so it'll do until I can source an SU and I went all electronic with the ignition - the original distributor was quite bad - the vacuum advance was completely seized and the centrifugal springs were very slack, there was also play in the shaft. A completely electronic brand new dizzy was less money than I could rebuild the original for so on one went - I can heartily recommend them now.

There will be more to come - there always is with a series. As I think of or do things that may be interesting I'll post them up.
 
"I didn't realise fuel went off like that" Tongue in cheek ? Modern fuel with Effinol goes off in weeks,destroys fibreglass fuel tanks and tank liners on motorcycles.
 
How quickly and how much it 'goes off' depends on how you store it, especially so with petrol containing ethanol.

If you can get rid of as much air as possible and keep it sealed in a relatively stable environment then it stays fine for months - I've had E10 in a can for 3 years and it still worked fine (bought when we lived in France, left behind and picked up when I went to collect some last bits). Probably lost a bit of potency over that period but not noticeable as such.

E-number petrol does have a bad reputation for it's destructive properties - fibreglass as mentioned, but also rubber parts (in carbs/FI systems etc.) and even metal can suffer especially if the fuel has been allowed to absorb water (it's hygroscopic...) As well as that, ethanol has a lower calorific value than straight petrol so using high ratio blends without a little work means your power output goes down along with your mpg.

With all that in mind, it doesn't bother me - with the way legislation and public opinion is going the amount of ethanol (and other 'renewable' fuels) is only going to increase. There are many ways around all the 'problems' - for instance, now everything in my 88 is e-compatible following my fuel system rebuild - it would actually 'run' on pure ethanol, and even (dare I suggest) run well on E100 with a bit more work.

I would never expect my opinion to influence anyone else's stance on 'new' fuels, but I'm happy that (almost) whatever 'they' decide to do with fuels I can carry on running without renewing my vehicles...
 
genuinely didn't know any of that, I assumed petrol was petrol ad infinitum

No way, mate! pauldg is quite right. Petrol has always gone off in the tanks of laid up vehicles, and may do so quicker with modern fuel. Certainly will not usually be good anything that has been standing more than a year, it is often a problem with classic cars and motorbikes when they are stored for long periods.
 
maybe I should review how I fill my chevy, it takes 34 gallons so when Tesco do their 20p - 50 p off per litre I fill it right up as that can be around £80 saving on a tank (50p per litre 100 litre fill and 60l fill) but I don't use it much so the fuel sits in there for a few months.
 
No way, mate! pauldg is quite right. Petrol has always gone off in the tanks of laid up vehicles, and may do so quicker with modern fuel. Certainly will not usually be good anything that has been standing more than a year, it is often a problem with classic cars and motorbikes when they are stored for long periods.


ah that was probably a contributing factor to the rough running of my s1 a coupld of years ago when I had left it unused in the garage for about 3 years
 
ah that was probably a contributing factor to the rough running of my s1 a coupld of years ago when I had left it unused in the garage for about 3 years

That is very likely the case. My granddad used to say that petrol smelled like varnish when it had gone off. Myself I always drain the fuel out of my mower and saws when I am not using them.
 
Old fashioned proper petrol used to actually turn into a hard varnish-like substance which would play havoc with things like carb jets - 'modern' stuff ime goes more like a jelly, which is different but still a bugger to deal with...

As for leaving it in a tank for a while - if the vehicle (/engine) is in regular use (like at least every couple of weeks) then it's very unlikely to be an issue. I would imagine something like the chevy mentioned would have a reasonable condition tank and fuel system (one that doesn't let water flow in) so topping it off every few months after slowly using that fuel probably won't hurt anything at all. In fact, to my mind it would be far preferable to leaving the tank empty which would let it corrode far quicker.

The real problems start when it only gets fired up every 18 months or more.
 
I shall keep it full then, it does get a couple of short runs a month 5 miles or so and one or two 100m runs a year, not too bad on long runs but it can't be doing more than 9 mpg round town
 
does diesel go off too?

I believe diesel can get a bacteria growing in it. A common problem for the boating fraternity who lay their boats up over the winter. I try to maintain a full-ish tank of diesel, particularly in winter too to avoid the small chance of condensation in the tank.
 
eew not keen on bacteria, maybe I should stick some domestos in the tank :D

my diesel s3 just moves around the drive as I never got round to finishing sorting out the electrics after changing the bh nearly 2 years ago, tank is pretty low now so I shall probably pop out with the big jerry cans and fill it up to the top.
 
that's useful thx, I shall get some of the diesel stuff.

wouldn't want to be those bugs when they pass into the piston chamber :D

apologies to the op for the thread hijack :D
 
apologies to the op for the thread hijack :D

I shall impart a resounding 'meh'...

Let's be honest, getting hijacked is likely to be the most action this thread is going to really see. For now at least.

The old 88 just soldiers on, ferrying me and tools/equipment to various work.

Sometime, I will have to get seriously dirty though - the chassis needs a fresh coat of paint, as does the body if I'm honest. Oh, there's the little fact that the engine is getting through about a litre of oil every 100-150 miles or so to look into as well........ I know the stem seals are shot, but it's not down on compression and it's running just fine (if puffing a little smoke at times) so rather than leave myself completely without a car it's going to have to wait until the disco is back on the road before I delve into the murky 2.25p depths.

Of course, there's always that nearly complete 300tdi lump sat in the garden - might give it the oomph to pull the (slightly) larger tyres AND a pair of 3.54s (that are also sat in the garden) at the same time....... Hmmm.

Anyone got about 7 spare gearboxes they don't want if I wang the tdi in? ;)
 
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