Me swivel pins are a bit wet!

peter butler · Sep 20, 2017

Hi guys..hope Ya all alright! So, last night, ten o'clock, last job of a full service on my s2a Landie, went to change/drain my swivel pin oil. Opened the drain up and ... water came out! Followed by emulsified gunk!! Q1: how do I clean it before refilling, and Q2; is it an easy job to replace the seal etc... Ta in advance!

DarrenHS3 · Sep 20, 2017

in reality, not much. i wouldve said just refill with EP90 and let the UJ do the rest (centrifuge it around) but if water got in, then oil will get out, probably all over your driveway in the next 2 days.

not an easy job for swivel seal replacement. which ever way you tackle it from you need to split the swivel from the axle tube. by "whatever way" i mean strip the swivel down from the hub right the way through. or unbolt the swivel from the axle tube and lift entire swivel assembly and pull entire half shaft out of the diff and axle tube.

John S · Sep 20, 2017

It's a big job. It may not just be the seal. The chrome on the swivel ball cracks and corrodes. That could make the job expensive.

pete1987RRC · Sep 20, 2017

If you had to drain the water out I guess oil won't run out so refil with the right stuff.
Not a bad job to change if the balls are good.

Turboman · Sep 20, 2017

peter butler said:
Hi guys..hope Ya all alright! So, last night, ten o'clock, last job of a full service on my s2a Landie, went to change/drain my swivel pin oil. Opened the drain up and ... water came out! Followed by emulsified gunk!! Q1: how do I clean it before refilling, and Q2; is it an easy job to replace the seal etc... Ta in advance!

It isn't too bad to unbolt the whole assembly from the axle tube, and replace the seal on the back of the housing. Complete stripdown is a longer job, but you cna check and replace the swivel bushes if needed.

As above, sometimes the ball will need replacing as well.

Whatever you do, they are likely to fill up again if you drive through deep water.

cornish rattler · Sep 20, 2017

Why the hell BP don't do series Teflon balls I don't know they do the Def / Disco ones which are a god send compared to the series chrome ones

chris-the-gerbil · Sep 21, 2017

cornish rattler said:
Why the hell BP don't do series Teflon balls I don't know they do the Def / Disco ones which are a god send compared to the series chrome ones

Are the series balls different to Disco ones then? I perhaps foolishly thought they were the same?

peter butler · Sep 21, 2017

Guys...!! Thank you! I kinda had the feeling of what youd all say, but i needed to be sure! Also, my balls are a bit rough, so im off to the doctor i guess. Ahem, sorry, garage!!!! For now its a top up and a wait to see if the missus kills me for (more) oil on the drive.

chris-the-gerbil · Sep 21, 2017

Looks at name...

You wouldn't be the Peter Butler that does down hole instrumentation and used to have a Ford Focus would you....?

cornish rattler · Sep 21, 2017

chris-the-gerbil said:
Are the series balls different to Disco ones then? I perhaps foolishly thought they were the same?

Yeah they look similar to each other but the Def / Disco ones are smaller and the Def / Disco ones are made for C.V. joints where as series ones are made for U.J. joints

chris-the-gerbil · Sep 21, 2017

I know someone who fitted Disco swivel balls to his series though - I know that the joint used UJ's on the series. I suspect that he did a bit more than just swap the swivel balls then from the sounds of it - I wonder if he just swapped the entire axle or summat.

Reason he did it of course was pitted swivels.

I do pity a friend of mine who used to lord his Landcruiser of mine until he found hed got pitted swivels - which are welded onto the axle tube! Never let him forget that I have swappable balls (ooer!)

cornish rattler · Sep 21, 2017

Yeah it sounds like he fitted Def / Disco axles but he would have needed to either mod the chassis to fit coil springs or mod the axles to fit leaf springs either way its a big job and tend to look daft on a series really as the axles are wider but if fitted with Def wing arches they look alright but you are then making it look like a pretender then

peter butler · Sep 22, 2017

chris-the-gerbil said:
Looks at name...

You wouldn't be the Peter Butler that does down hole instrumentation and used to have a Ford Focus would you....?

Not i, nope. Are you looking for someone to look down your hole??

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