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dont quote me on this but i think what happens the shocks will extend further than ur springs, so ull probly need a set of disolcation cones if it dont come with them allready.
 
I just looked at a few shocks and 1 set of the +5 shocks say..... Please note:- Dislocation / Relocation cones, Extended brake pipes and Heavy Duty spring retainers are recommended with these shock absorbers.
 
Hi Stu, you can use your plus 2" springs that are fitted now, the 5" shocks allow for extra articulation, but they are pin fitted at both ends so you need to alter the rear shock mount fron eyed to pin, and as aready said dislocation cones and longer brake lines and cranked trailing arms are generally needed to get the best out of them
 
also if you do not move the shock mounts up you will limit your compression by alot making all the overrated articulation mainly on droop that will mean you will need wide angled propshafts, longer brake lines, and longer bump stops to limit the axle so it stops before punching your new shiny shocks through themselves. Its not a case of Just buy the kit its alot more complicated that that. My "lift" took a couple of months to get right much jacking and driving onto old wheel to get the compressed and fully extended length with no binding or brake line problems with bump stops set up within 5mm of the shocks fully compressed.
 
What Jai said .. +5" can mean +/- 2 1/2" or any combination of numbers .. ;)

If you do this presumably you've also got larger tyres, so you also need to make clearance for them when they're fully stuffed .. which can involve removing the wheel arches and replacing differently to accommodate, or a body lift, or moving shock mounts about and sundry other small mods to make them fit and work correctly.

There's loads of vehicles out there that have done mods like this without taking all of it into consideration which end up costing their owners a lot, or their subsequent owners many headaches .. ;)
 
THE single best thing you can do is join a association of rover owners affiliated offroad club in my honest opinion for what its worth. That way you will learn how to drive around the disadvantages of your vehicle while taking great advantage of what it can do. The people there will be of old school with only REAL performance enhancing equipment opposed to lots of pointles bling that has flooded the market of late. A decent set of tyres and some trialling experience will take you furthur than most "Offroaders" at a P&P days. Experience is somthing you can only gain from putting the effort in and there is no cheat unfortunatly. There is no single mod that will make your vehicle go anywhere. Axle lockers is the nearest thing you will get to that combined with a decent set of tyres and some skill you will be far better that the average lifted "kitted" mota. Also by joining a club and being an active member you will keep your vehicle in a roadworthy state which is not usually the case with many playday hacks because it has to be kept in a good condition for each trial event. All that while gaining lots of driving skill, experience and socailize with the best drivers and pickup their knowledge along the way.
IMO articuion is way overated, I know the twist of champ at billing a couple of years ago TD5 lockered up, winches front and rear, sand ladders a full on challenge truck that has bags of articulation still he gets stuck when a bog standard series III and myself drove past through and offered him a tow it was most amusing! Ask Spyderman he was the series driver. Was a case back then of all the gear and completly no idea.
 
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MHM its mental had a week off doing house stuff now back at work. Trying to run the workshop where we build up machines boss away so we don't get paperwork when we should crazy Indian man getting in the way, nice guy but no idea! camera's up following our every move. Shame cos the company is a good company the bosses are good people all the people here is like a family, its growing expanding and plenty of work just they have upset the 2 guys that work here with me by putting the camera's up and being monitored 24/7. Everyone seems ****ed orf. Doesn't bother me nothing to hide just a bit crap working here at the mo compared to how it was, defo need a holiday somwhere but I can be thankful of a job and the money to just about pay my half of the mortgage and bills.
 
Off road machines I Wish! I used to help my bro build specials and competition motors for trials and some comp safari racers for AWDC aswell as servicing for his old customers. All good fun after school/college.

My day to day job boring as it sounds is building up photocopiers to customer requirements and refurbing older machines. A far cry from my last job working in Afghanistan as a construction site manager for a $4.2M new build RTC as part of the reconstruction effort. Loads of fun daily laughs and upset. It does make me laugh when people tell me how stressful their job is over here when they can go back to a warm home for a good nights sleep and a rest.
 
iv got a 2" lift and 265 75 16 insa turbo Dakar's on. my truck dose well off road IMO !!

it may do even better with a different driver !:hysterically_laughi

it was more out of interest i asked.

thing is iv been looking at springs and shocks and iv just noticed that the yellow ****-part and pro com shocks E900, say not for use with winch !! (and that's whats on my disco).
they are about 18 month old now, lots of use off road in that time and i fit the winch 4 month ago, also i carry all me recovery gear and some tools. im also towing the sj on a trailer 3 times a month.
so in the next few month i want to up grade them so il just get +2" HD springs and shocks
 
jai_landrover said:
THE single best thing you can do is join a association of rover owners affiliated offroad club in my honest opinion for what its worth. That way you will learn how to drive around the disadvantages of your vehicle while taking great advantage of what it can do. The people there will be of old school with only REAL performance enhancing equipment opposed to lots of pointles bling that has flooded the market of late. A decent set of tyres and some trialling experience will take you furthur than most "Offroaders" at a P&P days. Experience is somthing you can only gain from putting the effort in and there is no cheat unfortunatly. There is no single mod that will make your vehicle go anywhere. Axle lockers is the nearest thing you will get to that combined with a decent set of tyres and some skill you will be far better that the average lifted "kitted" mota. Also by joining a club and being an active member you will keep your vehicle in a roadworthy state which is not usually the case with many playday hacks because it has to be kept in a good condition for each trial event. All that while gaining lots of driving skill, experience and socailize with the best drivers and pickup their knowledge along the way.
IMO articuion is way overated, I know the twist of champ at billing a couple of years ago TD5 lockered up, winches front and rear, sand ladders a full on challenge truck that has bags of articulation still he gets stuck when a bog standard series III and myself drove past through and offered him a tow it was most amusing! Ask Spyderman he was the series driver. Was a case back then of all the gear and completly no idea.
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I broadly agree with the above, HOWEVER the main off road problem with a Disco is the long rear overhang. You can normally do something about the towbar (remove it or get it up and out the way a bit more, leaving it on to protect the fuel tank) but the length of the rear overhang is always going to be an issue when the going gets tough. Also the ramp breakover is a minor issue. A suspension raise helps with these 2 things.
 
discomark10 said:
A Big set of tyres with good tread and a 2 inch lift kit is the most u NEED to spend. the rest is to gain small improvements.
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I couldn't agree more. Changing the tyres on my 200tdi made the biggest difference of anything.

I've also fitted a +2" lift kit. I didn't need to change the shocker mountings but I did have to extend the brake hoses. Oh and I fitted dislocation cones too. Remove the tow bar or better still fit a detachable one as then the bracing is still in place, and can protect the fuel tank.

I do disagree slightly with the articulation comment. Whilst its not the be-all and end-all, you do need to make sure the springs you fit are not too stiff. I've seen people having trouble on rocks with too-stiff lift kits, where I went over with my standard disco springs. Also mega stiff springs bugger up your ride comfort.

I spent ages researching kits, its hard to find info on spring rates but in the end I went for the ironman kit, as this is slightly harder than standard, but not massively. Off-road is great and I found the bit of extra stiffness helped on-road handling too.

The final mod was 265/75R16 mud tyres (with a spot of arch trimming). The only thing I *might* do differently would be to go for all terrain pattern, as the muds are not great in the wet or on on ice. I suppose the ideal is two sets of wheels, but its hassle and a good "All terrain" can just about give you the best of both worlds - the old General AT's certainly did.
 
be careful with any "kit" usually the springs are rock solid and do nothing for your offroad ability.
Landie.man you have found somthing that works for your needs. The old boys that trial usually with light motas i.e no winches Use as a starting point red whites all around and plus 2 inch es9000 shocks its not a bad starting point. A disco is never going to be a 90 people will say their disco is as good offroad as a 90 with excellent road manners. Well it comes down to Good old simple physics I'm afraid and many people have tried and failed to beat physics.
 
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