LED headlights...again!

steveyorks · Mar 3, 2018

I now this has been done to death and I have read past posts but time moves on quickly and things change. Im looking at these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-LED...561575?hash=item3d38d61e27:g:wHcAAOSwkShY-dJW

The price is ok and as I need to replace my lights anyway I can stomach it but dont want to buy something with poor beam definition etc. Anyone got them or something of a similar price? I cant afford the expensive ones.

Devilish · Mar 3, 2018

You will be happy with those, and they have a excellent return policy, <£60 are crap. They have come a long way, I remember trying some of the first LED H4, jeeesus. I have same type of thing in the Dominator and cowl fogs on my GoldWing.

Coffeelandy · Mar 4, 2018

steveyorks said:
I now this has been done to death and I have read past posts but time moves on quickly and things change. Im looking at these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-LED...561575?hash=item3d38d61e27:g:wHcAAOSwkShY-dJW
Cheers for this Mate just ordered a pair I'll let everyone know how they go.

The price is ok and as I need to replace my lights anyway I can stomach it but dont want to buy something with poor beam definition etc. Anyone got them or something of a similar price? I cant afford the expensive ones.

leeds · Mar 4, 2018

Only slight issue is that they are not road legal in the UK

Brendan

tom1979 · Mar 4, 2018

steveyorks said:
I now this has been done to death and I have read past posts but time moves on quickly and things change. Im looking at these:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-LED...561575?hash=item3d38d61e27:g:wHcAAOSwkShY-dJW

The price is ok and as I need to replace my lights anyway I can stomach it but dont want to buy something with poor beam definition etc. Anyone got them or something of a similar price? I cant afford the expensive ones.

I have these and they’re great just remember you need a different dim/dip for led. They were a lot dearer when I got mine

leeds said:
Only slight issue is that they are not road legal in the UK

Brendan

They are E marked etc our mot place had a good look at them and said they’re fine?

bankz5152 · Mar 4, 2018

They need an approval marking too not just e marking.

tom1979 · Mar 4, 2018

bankz5152 said:
They need an approval marking too not just e marking.

I’ll have another look I’ve had them probably two years and specifically mentioned them to the mot tester who said they were fine

blue beasty · Mar 4, 2018

Headlights in the UK need to be marked E11.

It's not been much of an issue so far but correct headlights have been specifically mentioned in the new MOT regs that come in May.

If they're not marked E11 they will be a likely fail in 2 months

tom1979 · Mar 4, 2018

blue beasty said:
If they're not marked E11 they will be a likely fail in 2 months

I wonder if any of these led headlight kits are

blue beasty · Mar 4, 2018

tom1979 said:
I wonder if any of these led headlight kits are

Don't know, some maybe but LEDs and HIDs are singled out for checking.

bankz5152 · Mar 4, 2018

Imo think led headlights look sh!te on fenders anyway.

steveyorks · Mar 4, 2018

Well the main thing is for me that they must be safe for me and other road users. I don't want to be a pain for drivers coming the other way. The thing is I can buy a set of led spots for next to nothing and the proper headlamps from the well know makers are extortionately priced!

neilly · Mar 4, 2018

I like the original ones, male sure the wiring is good and you have good volts at the light , fit a boomslang if needed. Plus decent bulbs.

Then you can always fit a set of driving lights as well.

Works for me.

Cheers

leeds · Mar 5, 2018

blue beasty said:
Headlights in the UK need to be marked E11.

It's not been much of an issue so far but correct headlights have been specifically mentioned in the new MOT regs that come in May.

If they're not marked E11 they will be a likely fail in 2 months

Sorry but you are wrong.

E11 is the country code for UK

What is need is a genuine APPROVAL mark. There is no such thing as an E mark for headlights!

A genuine approval mark consists of several elements

Country Code which has done the approval E + number in a circle

Amendment or regulation number

Actual approval number

Marking for LHT

Light Function code

PL

Peak beam reference number

etc etc.

Those headlights referred to above are NOT road legal in the UK as it is NOT a genuine approval mark.

If a headlight is marked DOT SAE and European country code it is NOT road legal in the UK.

Anybody who claims a headlight is DOT approved are wrong as DOT do NOT approve headlights.

Neither do UNECE approve headlights.

Both UNECE and DOT are regulatory bodies and are not approval bodies.

Brendan

blue beasty · Mar 5, 2018

leeds said:
Sorry but you are wrong.

E11 is the country code for UK

What is need is a genuine APPROVAL mark. There is no such thing as an E mark for headlights!

A genuine approval mark consists of several elements

Country Code which has done the approval E + number in a circle

Amendment or regulation number

Actual approval number

Marking for LHT

Light Function code

PL

Peak beam reference number

etc etc.

Those headlights referred to above are NOT road legal in the UK as it is NOT a genuine approval mark.

If a headlight is marked DOT SAE and European country code it is NOT road legal in the UK.

Anybody who claims a headlight is DOT approved are wrong as DOT do NOT approve headlights.

Neither do UNECE approve headlights.

Both UNECE and DOT are regulatory bodies and are not approval bodies.

Brendan

I'm happy to be corrected.

What I'm not happy about is members shelling out only to find they fail an MOT.

tom1979 · Mar 5, 2018

I bought the same ones as in the original post from SP4x4 18 months ago who assured me at the time, and again yesterday, of their legality. I've just checked what they actually have on them and they have:

"DOT SAE"
"E9"
"HCR-PL-E9"
"00 1062"

I've no idea what any of that means, seemed good enough for our MOT place (at the moment). E9 appears to be Spain.

I wouldn't know where to look for the regulations and subsequent guidance documents. I've not heard about UK law requiring filament bulbs.

There doesn't appear to be anything in the MOT manual regarding markings on lights, just the alignment and pattern of the light source on "European Type" headlights:

European Type (Checked on dipped beam)

Characteristics:

(a) an asymmetric dipped beam pattern with:

 a distinctive horizontal cut-off on the right, and

 a visible wedge of light above the horizontal (the ‘Kick up’) towards the left

(b) a lens may carry a European approval mark

Huntinghicap · Mar 5, 2018

bankz5152 said:
Imo think led headlights look sh!te on fenders anyway.

I disagree.....

Chalky. · Mar 5, 2018

Huntinghicap said:
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I disagree.....

They look sh!te anorl!

Whatever next, fairy lights in the cab??

My standard lights have worked just fine for the past 19 years, and will continue to do so for the next 19!

All this led stuff is just a gimic IMHO

Turboman · Mar 5, 2018

Gottschalk said:
They look sh!te anorl!

Whatever next, fairy lights in the cab??

My standard lights have worked just fine for the past 19 years, and will continue to do so for the next 19!

All this led stuff is just a gimic IMHO

Td5 bowls, Wipac Crystal Lights, cheap, easy to change bulbs. No worries.

bankz5152 · Mar 5, 2018

Turboman said:
Td5 bowls, Wipac Crystal Lights, cheap, easy to change bulbs. No worries.

+1 perfectly fine.

LEDs arnt a gimmic though they are leaps and bounds above any previous lighting systems before. Shame the design for fenders makes em look like a shoddy '00s bmw. Bar the trucklites i think? Look oem but are LEDs

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