L405 subsection

biketeacherdave · Dec 23, 2019

RangeRoller dt said:
I agree. I like the idea of a D3/4, but doubt I would put up with the ownership issues which considering what I drive now is a statement and a half.

Just a bit...iv got a p38, d3 and l322 and to be honest now iv sorted the p38 out some while back none really give me any issues...mite get a l405 if I had room on the driveway

RangeRoller dt · Dec 24, 2019

biketeacherdave said:
none really give me any issues

Brave words

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

wammers said:
I am really sorry to have to say this, but any vehicle that needs the body removed to gain access to vital components is total and utter crap. It may look well but is a ridiculous design. Purposely designed to be dealer only repair.

What has this got to do with the L405? There is no separate chassis to remove the body from. You’ve got yourself confused with the Disco 3/4 (where removing the body from the chassis is a perfectly acceptable way to access major components anyway!).

wammers · Dec 24, 2019

Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
What has this got to do with the L405? There is no separate chassis to remove the body from. You’ve got yourself confused with the Disco 3/4 (where removing the body from the chassis is a perfectly acceptable way to access major components anyway!).

Oh ok maybe you are right. But having to remove any vehicles body to repair it is hardly acceptable when dealers charge £120.00 an hour.

Wazzajnr · Dec 24, 2019

I believe the dealers can lift the body in a couple of hours so if that means easy access to everything, they will probably save said hours anyway.
I used to regularly drop front subframe out of my mini for jobs as it was so much easier to get at and didn't keep banging my head on the bonnet catch.
If the body off is a relatively easy process then I see nothing wrong with it.

wammers · Dec 24, 2019

Wazzajnr said:
I believe the dealers can lift the body in a couple of hours so if that means easy access to everything, they will probably save said hours anyway.
I used to regularly drop front subframe out of my mini for jobs as it was so much easier to get at and didn't keep banging my head on the bonnet catch.
If the body off is a relatively easy process then I see nothing wrong with it.

It does sort of prohibit home working slightly though.

Datatek · Dec 24, 2019

wammers said:
It does sort of prohibit home working slightly though.

A cheap second hand fork lift needed?

Dippypud · Dec 24, 2019

Datatek said:
A cheap second hand fork lift needed?

Or knowing a decent farmer with a telehandler ....

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

A specialist can lift the body off, complete the major service at 112,000 miles / 7 years, change all of the belts, including both cam belts all for £7-800. I know that’s still a major wedge, but it’s still only once every 7 years! All the work can be done with the body on if you want, it just takes longer.

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

wammers said:
...hardly acceptable when dealers charge £120.00 an hour.

I wish!

wammers · Dec 24, 2019

Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
A specialist can lift the body off, complete the major service at 112,000 miles / 7 years, change all of the belts, including both cam belts all for £7-800. I know that’s still a major wedge, but it’s still only once every 7 years! All the work can be done with the body on if you want, it just takes longer.

Did you not twig the bit were i said vehicles are being designed for dealer only servicing.

Datatek · Dec 24, 2019

wammers said:
Did you not twig the bit were i said vehicles are being designed for dealer only servicing.

Sure as hell they were not designed to last much longer than the warranty period.

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

wammers said:
Did you not twig the bit were i said vehicles are being designed for dealer only servicing.

Yes, I did. I then explained how it could be done at a sensible cost through a specialist (non dealer), or with the body in situ

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

Datatek said:
Sure as hell they were not designed to last much longer than the warranty period.

Nothing new there then, but at least warranties tend to be three years now, rather than one and they take a lot, lot longer to rust as well.

Datatek · Dec 24, 2019

Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
Nothing new there then, but at least warranties tend to be three years now, rather than one and they take a lot, lot longer to rust as well.

The L322 is a rust bucket, I don't know about the newer ones.

gold rover · Dec 24, 2019

Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
What has this got to do with the L405? There is no separate chassis to remove the body from. You’ve got yourself confused with the Disco 3/4 (where removing the body from the chassis is a perfectly acceptable way to access major components anyway!).

I was wondering that myself. Thought I had missed something, somewhere.
You know it's a conspiracy , don't you? The L405 gets it's own section and mid-celebration is hijacked by the Sport

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 24, 2019

Datatek said:
The L322 is a rust bucket, I don't know about the newer ones.

The L405 is completely made from aluminium, rivited and bonded. The oldest ones are now 6 or 7 years old with no corrosion issues reported.

RangeRoller dt · Dec 24, 2019

+1 trap.

Dippypud said:
Or knowing a decent postbox thief with a telehandler ....

Datatek · Dec 25, 2019

Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
The L405 is completely made from aluminium, rivited and bonded. The oldest ones are now 6 or 7 years old with no corrosion issues reported.

What happens as the glue ages?

Tigger Eeyore & Roo · Dec 25, 2019

Or, as the rivets start to suffer from dissimilar alloy corrosion. But none of this technology is that new and has been tried and tested over decades previously. Heck, even bicycle frames have been bonded together like this for at least 30 years without issue, but time will tell.
One of the problems is that it costs a lot more to set up production lines for aluminium construction, with the payback for greatly reduced energy consumption taking at least 4 years to compensate.

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