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I see what you mean, now
For a second there I thought you had read comments that were supporting their approach to the recovery You meant some people were daft enough to think the video title was serious.
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The good thing about my flat rope is that it rolls in to a very neat 'spool' that slots between the bulkhead and seat. Very tidy
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Dirty flat stap in your motor/cab after a recovery???
That's why I now own a pick up.
I only put my emergency rope in my cab and once used it's in the box in the back & a new one brought.
That's why I now own a pick up.
I only put my emergency rope in my cab and once used it's in the box in the back & a new one brought.
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Note sure, neilly. I don't know enough about them. I 'inherited' from my dad's garage many years ago.would that be a lifting strap then??
Cheers
He was a wagon driver and so it may well have been borrowed from the lifting gear at work. I should have said strap not rope.
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Yes a lifting strop has little or no give and must not be used for snatch type recovery because all the force is applied in one, harsh go to the recovery points but can be used for a steady pull when taut from stationary.
Similarly a recovery strop isn't great for simple towing a freewheeling vehicle because 'kangarooing' is exaggerated.
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Another strop is when a 12 year old has been grounded. I think this is the most dangerous of all strops
many thks, wasn’t sure , ive got some Damar strops
don’t know if theres a use by date so to speak on strops
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At the risk of being sexist, you should have had boysAnother strop is when a 12 year old has been grounded. I think this is the most dangerous of all strops
So, for straight forward recovery and towing, would you recommend the one in the Paddocks link?
At the risk of being sexist, you should have had boys
So, for straight forward recovery and towing, would you recommend the one in the Paddocks link?
don’t know what the guys think, but i’ve used this company
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Damar-Webbing-Products-Ltd
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@AI203
Not sexist at all. You thought I was on about kids it's the dog that's grounded at the moment. Keeps nicking the horses carrots(look in the mouth)
Only have dogs/horses & well trained nieces/nephews
Not sexist at all. You thought I was on about kids
it's the dog that's grounded at the moment. Keeps nicking the horses carrots(look in the mouth) Only have dogs/horses & well trained nieces/nephews
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So you wish to purchase a rubber rope for recovery? Please answer all the following questions. If you can answer 'Yes' to more than 1, you are permitted to purchase one;
1. Have you ever lost a vehicle, of any make/model, and never got it back, ever, because you couldn't recover it using traditional methods?
2. Do you like paying the excess for the replacement of your front / rear windscreen?
3. Does your life insurance cover a shackle being embedded into your skull at 247.6mph?
4. Have you seen someone with a rubber rope and they have semi-naked burds wiv big tits draped over their 4x4?
Start now.
1. Have you ever lost a vehicle, of any make/model, and never got it back, ever, because you couldn't recover it using traditional methods?
2. Do you like paying the excess for the replacement of your front / rear windscreen?
3. Does your life insurance cover a shackle being embedded into your skull at 247.6mph?
4. Have you seen someone with a rubber rope and they have semi-naked burds wiv big tits draped over their 4x4?
Start now.
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At the risk of being sexist, you should have had boys
So, for straight forward recovery and towing, would you recommend the one in the Paddocks link?
NO, No No.... No .. The one in the Paddocks is a Kerr (Kinetic Energy Recovery Rope) and is NOT a towrope or just a simple recovery rope. It's basically a controlled elastic rope.
You hook it onto the stuck vehicle and recovery vehicle with a fair amount of slack, that's why it's 8m long. The recovery vehicle then drives away, accelerating steadily but not fast, until the rope gets taut then stretches, when all your momentum is transferred from the recovery vehicle to the stuck vehicle which should just pop out of the situation.
The dangerousness of the technique is a lot of people think the driving away bit is very fast, when it should be a steady acceleration, till it's stretched or until the momentum overcomes the stiction of the stuck vehicle, bringing the recovery vehicle almost to a stop. The recovery vehicle shouldn't actually stop, it should still press on a bit until the other vehicle is out. If driven too fast the momentum can way overcome the breaking strain and cause problems!
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Ha, ha, like it. I really didn't mean to be sexist though, just talking from experience. We've got three lads and never had a strop yet. Youngest is 19 now, so I'm hoping we're well past the strop stage.@AI203
Not sexist at all. You thought I was on about kids
Only have dogs/horses & well trained nieces/nephews View attachment 138636
If your dog had the choice between a pheasant and a carrot, that would be a different story. You're just not giving the poor thing enough choice!
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Cheers, Paul. I get that and intend to avoid that situation. What I don't understand is the difference between the two ropes in the links neilly put up. Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but I need more edufucation.
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Dogs now deaf so does not hear the gun.
Or whistle when he's meant to come back.
Is smart though. Always wants to get in the L200 onto the heated seats
Or whistle when he's meant to come back.
Is smart though. Always wants to get in the L200 onto the heated seats
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Cheers, Paul. I get that and intend to avoid that situation. What I don't understand is the difference between the two ropes in the links neilly put up. Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but I need more edufucation.
They are both Kinetic ropes,
The paddocks one is one that I have seen used by experienced people. Has been around for a while.
The other one the Max bogger is one that, from what I have seen is fairly new on the market, At least I have not seen it before. I was asking if anyone had any experience of it.
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Cheers, Paul. I get that and intend to avoid that situation. What I don't understand is the difference between the two ropes in the links neilly put up. Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but I need more edufucation.
Ah, no problem. Both links are Kerr's ropes, but the first one is a newer version. The 'woven' look one from Paddocks is what most people understand as a 'proper' Kerr system.
Kerr systems also come as straps, which have contrast 'bands' sewn into them that when they are broken (just the different colour strands) show the rope should not be used for KERR as it's become over stretched and lost a lot of it's integrity and elasticity..
