Just thought I'd keep you all upto date!!!!

or... use your now secure land rover to drive into the moors and bury the b*stards you just beat the death for trying to steal it!

ellebarto said:

Nah none of that is right although any self respecting shooter would never keep a gun loaded. It's just convincing a jury of your intentions. Stealing your car from your drive is not likely to cover you. Breaking in to your home for your keys and putting you and your family in fear certainly would! It's happened but with knives 3 or 4 times in recent months with the crook coming off worse, homeowner initially arrested but then released.

All highly hypothetical on my part I'd add. It would take a major threat for me to take that risk!

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Can i have this weeks lottery numbers too? As you seem to be able to predict the outcome of a hypothetical legal case when it will be purely subjective and unique to the case in hand.

Or maybe you are just talking crap.

Bump said:

Can i have this weeks lottery numbers too? As you seem to be able to predict the outcome of a hypothetical legal case when it will be purely subjective and unique to the case in hand.

Or maybe you are just talking crap.

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Hypothetical in that I'm not sure I'd ever pick up a gun to defend my home. As for the rest of it, its far from hypothetical. There are enough recent cases to fully support what I've said! Less uninformed whinning, more internet searching?!?

As sad as it is the police would have you locked up in an instance and you would have to prove that the force you used was proportionate at the time.
I have in my past been in situations when I have used force that I considered more than fair for the situation I was in at that time.Each time I have been arrested.And each time it has gone to the CPS for consideration.
I have been charged 3 times, gone to court and been fortunate enough to win BUT rest assured you will be arrested and you will have to prove your actions were necessary

However,would I do it again if I had too?

YES,I will not be a victim

The Mad Hat Man said:

I still find it difficult to believe that ny person would have a loaded gun close by in a bedroom, without thinking about using it before the event - hence "premeditated"

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the police require you to store weapons and amunition locked away out of plain sight of visitors to the property.
not many visitors would wonder into a bedroom, making it an excellent place to store a gun, provided of course it was correctly serured.

borristherat said:

the police require you to store weapons and amunition locked away out of plain sight of visitors to the property.
not many visitors would wonder into a bedroom, making it an excellent place to store a gun, provided of course it was correctly serured.

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Firearms and shotguns are two different beasts covered by diffreent laws and certification. Firearms require gun and ammunition to be locked seperately. With a shotgun the weapon is all that matters. That has to be properly secured. There i sno law for the storage of shotgun cartridges. You can put em where you like, althoug common sense would prevail to most shooters

ellebarto said:

Firearms and shotguns are two different beasts covered by diffreent laws and certification. Firearms require gun and ammunition to be locked seperately. With a shotgun the weapon is all that matters. That has to be properly secured. There i sno law for the storage of shotgun cartridges. You can put em where you like, althoug common sense would prevail to most shooters

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so for instance you could have a 7 gun cabinate designed for firearms use and store your firearms and shotguns in that cabinate, with the ammunition and bolts from your firearms stored in the safe on the top of it. you could perhaps utalise an older cabinate that no longer complied to the standard required, due to having external locks, to store your cartridges in, even though you would not be required to by law, a sensible choice.

all this could be in your bedroom, as it being the least visited room in the house, would make an excellent place to store weapons.

so clearly a gun and ammunition could be kept in a bedroom without any premeditation involved in its use.

if i owned a gun be that desribed as a weapon/gun /shotgun/firearm, which due to my apparent lack of understanding, it is clear i dont, and heard an intruder downstairs i would leave them locked away as the first thing the police would do is arrest you, and the cars insured.

what i do to avoid the landy being nicked is park a suzuki next to it with the keys in the ignition.