Lloyd Parker wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Bill Putney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >You do realize that there are those in our country (many in
> >universities) who strongly advocate that we should consider adults
> >having sex with children as normal and acceptable behavior. I guess us
> >Christians are sure hung up in our religion since we think that ought
> >not to be allowed.
>
> Lying scumbag.
Umm - sorry Lloyd - but they made the rounds on all the popular news and talk
shows - I heard them with my own two ears and saw them with my own two eyes - and
so did many people here. One in praticular was a Berkely professor (happened to
be a woman) who published a book on the subject and advocates man/boy
relationships in her classes. Amazon.com made the headlines because it was
selling a book on the subject. And - hey - lookey here what I just this munite
found on amazon.com via a google search.
Put this one in your pipe and smoke it:
"Many researchers is the fields of Psychology and Human Sexuality have been taking
a fresh look at the 'conventional' wisdom which has been the basis for evaluation
of intergenerational male/male sexual activities. The long assumed "harm" of such
activities has failed to be supported by research, and the sociocultural
'wrongness' based on this "harm" is therefore left without any rational basis. An
extremely thorough and exhaustive paper, 'A Meta-Analytic Examination of Assumed
Properties of Child Sexual Abuse Using College Samples' was published in the July,
1998 Psychological Bulletin, the journal of the American Psychological
Association. It brought forth howls of protest from right wing radicals all the
way up to and including the United States House of Representatives, but after the
furor subsided, the paper, having been subjected to intensive examination at every
level, has been judged to be true, accurate and objective science.
"Previous to this, a collection of papers by such authors as Bullough, Bernard,
Schild, Warren, Bauserman, et al., was published as 'Dares to Speak', edited by
Joseph Geraci. Before that there was 'Male Intergenerational Intimacy' by
Brongersma. Both of these volumes are currently in print, and are available.
The above mentioned paper and books are intended primarily for researchers,
educators, and other people knowledgeable in these areas. Therefore, I have
authored a 'layman's' introductory volume, 'Understanding Loved Boys and
Boylovers', which essentially covers the same premises, data, and conclusions as
the above, but which is written in mostly non technical language, with the average
citizen in mind. This book, while certainly bound to be controversial, and which
espouses certain changes in various laws, is carefully maintained within the
limits of current laws, there is nothing in it which could possibly concern any
postal inspector, or which could create any legal liability. SafeHaven Foundation
Press"
Even sanctioned by the wonderful American Psychological Association. Want to call
me a liar now?
>
> >Here's an example: The AIDs problem in Africa - the liberal's solution
> >is live and let live - take money from the taxpayers and ship it over
> >there to buy condoms, then tell the people to be sure to use their
> >condoms and have fun.
> Liar.
>
Nope - that happens to be true to.
>
> >The (for lack of a better word) conservative's
> >solution is to tell the people "Hey - quit screwing everything that
> >walks and have one spouse". Guess which solution works and fits with
> >life.
>
> No, it's too say, "They sinned; let them die."
And your way kills even more in the name of tolerance (not that I necessarily
agree that they should die, but reality can be a bitch).
> >
> >The liberal will say that the conservative solution is imposing on
> >people's freedom and that it forces one's morals on others.
> >
> >But in the end, one solution (the "give everybody a condom and tell them
> >to have a good time" one) results in one country having an AIDs rate of
> >40%, while the other solution ("control yourself and have some
> >self-respect") drops the AIDs rate in another country from 21% to 6%.
> >
> >Now - which solution is the more moral and compassionate?
>
> Since you made both up, the correct answer is, "you're an idiot."
Whether I am an idiot or not is debatable and I'm probably biased on that
question, but I did not make either up.
> > The one that
> >results in untold misery, poverty, and death (and guess what - not just
> >the individuals who participated in the sex are affected - how about the
> >children? - how about the rest of their society who have no hope of a
> >healthy economy or decnt life because of their behaviour?), or the one
> >that imposes standards and saves countless lives and gives some chance
> >of prosperity and hope?
> >
> >We all will be paying for the consequences of decisions that are made.
> >We will be "technically" and "legally" right, but countless people will
> >suffer - but that's OK because we feel *good* about it. That's the
> >difference between conservatism and liberalism.
Bill Putney
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