Jap 4x4s Vs Defenders

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I'll wade in. Had a Japanese 4x4 at work, did a little light off roading in it.

1st trip out the rear bumper got caught on something and on of the brackets bent. The offender was a twig less than half an inch in diameter!!

Secondly, it got stuck so many times. The car we always got it out with was a 110 - longer wheelbase than what we were stuck in.

This has now been replaced with a Freelander 2 - still hasn't got stuck. Say no more.
 
have this.....seriously good offroader now, but around 70k in mods later to get it there....still wont beat my Defender tho...
 

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m35reo said:
there is one reason only that the japs got the markets in the middle east, africa, australia etc from landrover and that was price. the jap stuff was simply much cheeper . land rover sales were cripled buy import duty and the spares net work was to slow.


iv always had a landy but iv had japs, 5x hi-lux, 2x diahatsu, mazda double cab, early land cruiser and a patrol. due to work and curiosity mainly, and not one of them has tempted me to get shot of the landy.
ok, they are fairly reliable, the heaters tend to work!, quite comfy, you can hear the radio! engines are ok. im running out of plus points tbh :)

on the other hand, the bodies rot of of them in no time, service and repair parts are seriously expensive! ( 28quid for a fuel filter!) **** off road, not as good to tow with, about as much character as the washing machine, no status, not great on fuel ( i know plenty of l200 guys getting 18mpg in a diesel)

my 110 is 22years old and its never let me down in any way. its a tool thats completly fit for purpose. however my mazda double cab was hidiously unreliable and it was only 4yrs old when i got rid. 675quid for an exhaust!!!! no chance.

this argument will always come up because they have to justify why they didnt buy a landy. its brand jealousy. its like the people who will argue that lidl is better than anywhere else cause its cheeper, it aint its just cheaper.

i would never swap me landy for a jap
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
...Jap 4bys come and go....Landys are 4ever....thats wot I say. My Def now has over 500,000 km on the clock......still enjoy her like the day we left the showroom....
 
goonarmy said:
your wrong his right.
Ya both plebs for going on a survivalist website.
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Not on the second.

It's a great resource and to be honest I can't stand city living, I'm a country dude at heart :D
You need to get out of sheeple street :)

On the duelin' thread things have simmered down a bit, but there's some good natured banterin' goin' on.

I'll give a broadside with some of the gems from you folks here though :)
 
BuzzLand said:
Not on the second.

It's a great resource and to be honest I can't stand city living, I'm a country dude at heart :D
You need to get out of sheeple street :)

On the duelin' thread things have simmered down a bit, but there's some good natured banterin' goin' on.

I'll give a broadside with some of the gems from you folks here though :)
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i like the country side, many do, but "survival" is a need not a hobby.Still think his right, but landys are better off road.
 
my 1st 4x4 was a musso, learned my lesson when it started to go wrong, £1000 for an ecu,so traded it in for a disco,land rover spares are sooo cheap compared to foreign stuff,good job i suppose as ive needed a few lately, as shes 11 years old,(never faild an mot though!
 
It character all the way i reckon, my series 3 aint comfy or quiet, but it makes me smile every time i drive it! That counts for alot!
:amen:
 
jap crap is well er.. crap we used to have a 6 cylinder petrol nissan patrol xhat a crock of ****e we used it for shooting one of the field we use is quite hilly the patrol had some sort of glass petrol filter and when we drove across the field it would run out of petrol we had to roll it to the bottom to start it up again then use the low box to get out my old 77 range rover would pull up the hill in high box not much more revs than tickover and the patroll had crappy leafers on the back . my mate has an ugly bug delica its about as economical as my old 300bhp scooby it cost him 40 quid a week for a 6 mile a day round trip to work my iveco van carries carpets all round town all week for that i know its not a landrover but i believe they use the engines in those santannas so kinda counts lol
 
goonarmy said:
i like the country side, many do, but "survival" is a need not a hobby.Still think his right, but landys are better off road.
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Survival is what 90% of the UK is clueless about. You take the test first and the experience later UNLESS you have practised it via 'hobby's or lifestyle choices :)
 
went to use the fourtrack yesterday... turned the key... no dash lights... no starter.. so had to take all the tools out and use the disco. went out this morning fourtrak started first time and second time , third time all dead again..... decided first thing is to rip out the aftermarket immobiliser... basically its wired onto the five wires on back of ignition switch.... so cut out the immobiliser and connected wires on back of switch to loom ... black and yellow to black and yellow , red and black to red and black.... etc till i was left with a black on the switch and a white in the loom..... time to look at the scrapper out the back... thats got a multiplug with five wires in it that connects the switch to the loom...... only thing is the 2 red and blacks dont connect to each other.... one goes to the white and tother to the black.... what bleedin genius thought that up...... we now have dash lights and starter but the heater plug relay aint clicking in even though the light is working.....

not only is there a heater plug relay under the bonnet , that appears to be controled by a timer relay under the dash..... guess what ill be cussin all afternoon

or i might just get the easystart out.
 
defender11069 said:
landys are more fun with over 70% off landrovers ever built still on the road
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So where do all the second hand parts come from? What about all the crashed ones? What about all the rusted away Discos that donate engines to others? What about all the stolen Landies (apart from the Ringers)? What about the ones the ID comes from to go on a Ringer? What about all the 1.8 Freelanders with blown gaskets and written off engines? What about all the comp vehicles? What avout the ones on the back of the Atlantic Conveyor? etc etc etc.. :rolleyes:
 
Thursday evening, neighbour asks me if I can drain his gearbox and clean the filter on his Mitsu****i Delicrap. Like a **** I say yes (obviously for the appropriate coin of the realm).
Saturday morning prepared for round one of what I know is going to be a long fight with the rolling scrap heap I knock on neighbours door.
I now find it it no longer a "rolling" scrapheap, just a scrapheap. The f***ing thing has somehow managed to seize all four calipers in the space of three days. Oh joy. Messing about in foot high grass just to get the thing off so I can do the original job, LUVVERLEY.
Onto tarmac, gear box sorted, immobiliser packs up.
SOD IT, it can stay there and rot!!!!!!!
 
What is both annoying and really really bad, is at the bottom of the pages for the last few mins I have seen Mitsa****i adverts flying past in the sponsored links. :eek::doh:

Would be nice to get rid of all that :)
:mil13:
 
after armageddon it will be landrovers and landrover owners that survive. cos the jap owners will have forgotten how to mend stuff and their moters cant be repaired with cable ties and duct tape
 
hows about this little predicament i use me mitsubishi L200 to tow rescued discos from the brink of being scrapped so they can be enjoyed by anyone who wants to buy a good honest disco basically useing me jap motor to extend the life of the brittish landys
 
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