Jack and brace

Captainfieldmouse · Oct 8, 2020

Just taken delivery of my 2013 FL2 Dynamic SD4 and on looking under the floor cover in the boot I can see a tyre inflation kit (which I was expecting) but there's no jack or wheel brace, is that right? Numpty question but can you inflate a flat tyre with the full weight of the car on it unjacked?

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2020

You're best bet is to replace the tyre repair crap with a proper tyre and jack.

The Freelander is a heavy vehicle, which will destroy a tyre in seconds, making that spray stuff useless.

My FL2 has a full sized spare and jack.

paul99 · Oct 8, 2020

Yes, you can inflate a flat tyre without jacking the vehicle. Also, I had to get a new trolley jack when I got the Freelander 1 as my old one didn't have a high enough lift to get the bottom of the tyres off the ground! You may need to keep an eye out for that when sourcing a jack.

Alibro · Oct 8, 2020

What Nodge said.

Tyre inflation/repair kits supplied with new cars will work approx 50% of the time so approx 50% of the time you will be stranded.

Possibly a made up fact but my experience of them personally and in our company cars bares this out. I had insisted on getting a spare when I got my car and had to rescue my colleagues several times.
Last time I was at a tyre depot a lorry pulled up with a car on top because it had a puncture!
And the tyre depot guys said this happens regularly.

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2020

Alibro said:
Last time I was at a tyre depot a lorry pulled up with a car on top because it had a puncture!
And the tyre depot guys said this happens regularly.

Been there, done that. The tyre inflation goop in a can doesn't work, if the side wall has a cut in it.

The car (wife's Astra GTC) went to Quikfit on the back of an RAC truck, simply because there was a cut in the side wall.

Obviously having a spare in the boot would have saved 5 hours of our weekend.

So I now make sure the vehicle has a spare wheel, even if I have to buy one. The tyres goop goes in the bin.

Alibro · Oct 8, 2020

Nodge68 said:
Been there, done that. The tyre inflation goop in a can doesn't work, if the side wall has a cut in it.

The car (wife's Astra GTC) went to Quikfit on the back of an RAC truck, simply because there was a cut in the side wall.
Obviously having a spare in the boot would have saved 5 hours of our weekend.
So I now make sure the vehicle has a spare wheel, even if I have to buy one. The tyres goop goes in the bin.

LOL, believe it or not I have bought Goop several times. It's great for wheel barrow tyres, bike tyres or if you have an old tyre with a slow puncture.

Nodge68 · Oct 8, 2020

Alibro said:
LOL, believe it or not I have bought Goop several times. It's great for wheel barrow tyres, bike tyres or if you have an old tyre with a slow puncture.

Poundland tyre goop is fine for small tyres like wheelbarrows, bikes and sack trucks, as those all have inner tubes, which only ever pin hole.

Car tyres with a cut is well beyond the goops abilities.

Captainfieldmouse · Jan 6, 2021

Thanks all, confirmed what I thought really. Only had to use the goop inflator once on a previois car, it didnt work and resulted in expensive AA call out, never again! Anyone know of a good source for spare wheels and jacks/braces? Also I assume I can fit a full size spare in the boot floor as my previous 08 FL2 had one...unless the facelift model has a shallower floor? Have 19" wheels on currently

doriz · Jan 6, 2021

Captainfieldmouse said:
Thanks all, confirmed what I thought really. Only had to use the goop inflator once on a previois car, it didnt work and resulted in expensive AA call out, never again! Anyone know of a good source for spare wheels and jacks/braces? Also I assume I can fit a full size spare in the boot floor as my previous 08 FL2 had one...unless the facelift model has a shallower floor? Have 19" wheels on currently

I had a compressed and goop as standard equipment on an X5 ffs.

Nodge68 · Jan 6, 2021

Captainfieldmouse said:
Anyone know of a good source for spare wheels and jacks/braces? Also I assume I can fit a full size spare in the boot floor as my previous 08 FL2 had one...unless the facelift model has a shallower floor? Have 19" wheels on currently

I'd find the missing jack, wheel brace and holder on Ebay I'd also get a matching wheel on Ebay too. You shouldn't have much trouble finding what you need on there, and it shouldn't cost too much.
The boot space will take a full size wheel, but there is a slightly smaller space saver option, which my FL2 actually came with, but I couldn't see the point in those, so I found a matching full size wheel for mine.

backinblack · Jan 6, 2021

Captainfieldmouse said:
Thanks all, confirmed what I thought really. Only had to use the goop inflator once on a previois car, it didnt work and resulted in expensive AA call out, never again! Anyone know of a good source for spare wheels and jacks/braces? Also I assume I can fit a full size spare in the boot floor as my previous 08 FL2 had one...unless the facelift model has a shallower floor? Have 19" wheels on currently

You could jack it up and take one of your wheels off and try it

Captainfieldmouse · Jan 6, 2021

Nodge68 said:
I'd find the missing jack, wheel brace and holder on Ebay I'd also get a matching wheel on Ebay too. You shouldn't have much trouble finding what you need on there, and it shouldn't cost too much.
The boot space will take a full size wheel, but there is a slightly smaller space saver option, which my FL2 actually came with, but I couldn't see the point in those, so I found a matching full size wheel for mine.

Thanks Nodge68, will have a forage on fleabay

Captainfieldmouse · Jan 6, 2021

backinblack said:
You could jack it up and take one of your wheels off and try it

For a split second I even wondered if that was worth trying

backinblack · Jan 6, 2021

I hope the FL jacks are better than the paper ones that come with the Range Rover.

Nodge68 · Jan 6, 2021

Captainfieldmouse said:
For a split second I even wondered if that was worth trying

No need. The space for the spare wheel is large enough to take any standard wheel size.

Nodge68 · Jan 6, 2021

backinblack said:
I hope the FL jacks are better than the paper ones that come with the Range Rover.

It's just a scissor jack, which is suitable for changing a wheel.

Captainfieldmouse said:
Thanks Nodge68, will have a forage on fleabay

This sort of thing comes up quite often.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143889444289

backinblack · Jan 6, 2021

Nodge68 said:
It's just a scissor jack, which is suitable for changing a wheel.

The RR ones have a habit of collapsing I believe so I carry a bottle jack as well.

Captainfieldmouse · Jan 6, 2021

Nodge68 said:
It's just a scissor jack, which is suitable for changing a wheel.

This sort of thing comes up quite often.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143889444289

Thanks, will look out for 19" one, but that's exactly what I need

Nodge68 · Jan 6, 2021

Captainfieldmouse said:
Thanks, will look out for 19" one, but that's exactly what I need

You might need to look out for the tyre change tool pack and wheel separately, as very few new owners will opt for the full size matching spare, normally choosing the cheapest spare available, which was the black steel wheel, with 50MPH stickers on it.

paul99 · Jan 9, 2021

I got my last trolley jack from Machine Mart. It's a bit big to carry around though, more for repairs at home.

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