icarsoft i930

Bizzie said:

I have one of these and have found the manual to be useless, I had problems updating mine as my laptop is a Macbook and the wife's has Vista on it an their software only works with XP or windows 7.

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Well as its so cheap - spend another tenner and get yourself an XP PC off eBay!

Bizzie said:

I think that the Hawkeye can do more such as programming keys and fobs.

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That's as maybe, but people on here call dealers stealers - but will spend stupid money on a cheap PCB in a plastic box that is the Hawkeye. Personally I think they need another fault detecting device to find out whats wrong between their ears!

There again, I think that same device should be plugged into anyone who buys Apple products - for the same reason! Last Apple product I had was a IIe (in fact still got it!).

And in fact people who buy Land Rovers!

Bizzie said:

By the way their tech support told me that using it on a car with a fault can break it and it wouldn't be covered by the warrantee so you should fix any faults on your car before plugging it in, what good is a fault reader if you can't plug it into a car with a fault to find out what it is so you can fix it.

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Sorry, that can not be right.

Epicuser said:

So it does the same as the Hawkeye but costs nearly £200 less.

What's the catch?

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The catch is we here in the UK get ripped off big style...and the best thing is, we pull our own pants down and just take it?

Just because something is cheaper does not always mean it is inferior.

Other manufacturers have far better diagnostics than a Squawkeye..at a far cheaper price and is not fixed to one make or model of car? WTF is that all about?...Ripoff Britain. ..

Im all for these cheap clones and other imported diags.....

Its usually user error and lacking basic pc & technology skills that makes people say the there rubbish..

jedi said:

The catch is we here in the UK get ripped off big style...and the best thing is, we pull our own pants down and just take it?

Just because something is cheaper does not always mean it is inferior.

Other manufacturers have far better diagnostics than a Squawkeye..at a far cheaper price and is not fixed to one make or model of car? WTF is that all about?...Ripoff Britain. ..

Im all for these cheap clones and other imported diags.....

Its usually user error and lacking basic pc & technology skills that makes people say the there rubbish..

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So you are saying that it is better than the Hawkeye.

Im looking for a diagnostics reader and will consider this if it does all the Hawkeye will do.

I personally dont know as I dont have one...but it certainly looks good at the price.

I would certainly buy one at around £100 as compared to the hawkeye £300....the hawkeye is not perfect either.....

I only found out about the i930 after ordering an autel al619 but it was too late by then to cancel as it had been shipped, i thought i'd made a mistake and should have got the i930, when it arrived i was more than impressed it worked perfectly and sorted my srs problem also a fault i didn't even know i had.

I'm new to diagnostic equipment and prior to the al619 i'd got a couple of cheapies of the bay that only did the engine so basic engine codes, the al619 does engine, abs, srs and live data, it can also be used on other cars not just landrover i just like the autel and have learnt from using this, i'm not slagging it off but if i was to now order a diagnostic tool i'd get the autel md802 all systems as this does what the al619 does plus transmission, epb, service light, so if i ever need to upgrade the md802 is the one for me.

hmmm mixed reactions to this I sure hope it does what it says on the box I ve just ordered 1 from scan tool direct @ £90
I spoke to someone at scan tool direct and asked a few question as to its capability and he assures me it does all it says on the box and more however compared to hawkeye he could not compare it because hes never used the hawkeye machine however he has used isoft and it a good piece of kit only time will tell when it arrives

As mentioned in a previous thread, I bought the i930 for my Freelander 1.

I have used it with success to read and clear engine codes. But have just sent this to their tech support as most other functions don't work.

Problems encountered when doing anything other than engine code reads and live data which work fine.

Auto Gearbox shows ‘Fault in Comm with ECU’ when looking for fault codes and the live data is erroneous – e.g. input speed is 13158 RPM when at tickover.

ABS – shows wheels turning at o.41 MPH when stationary. Other data does not respond to car.

SRS shows ‘Fault in Comm with ECU’.

Instrument Pack is not showing correct data. e.g. not seeing A/C switch operating and showing engine at 5159 RPM when at tickover.

Security check shows ignition off when it is on and door open when closed. Data doesn’t update.

Any others found same problems??

Thanks, Andrew

Rather than spending a hundred quid or 3, is something like this not just as good...

Free shipping ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII ODB2 Diagnostic Interface Scanner , Elm 327 Bluetooth Car Scan Tool For Multi Brands -in Code Readers & Scan Tools from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com

5 quid shipped.

It recons it can read and crear codes.

Well I've ordered 1 - I'll let you know in a couple of weeks!

Will be interesting, cos I was talking to my brother about Freelander transmission problems caused by incorrect tyres or loss of tyre pressure and he suggested plugging into the CAN and getting the wheel speeds from the ABS - from that you can determine if there's any problems. So hopefully it'll give me the wheel speeds and I can knock up some software to run on a tablet.

I've downloaded the free software, the splash screen looks comprehensive.

I use dashcommander on my iPad mini, bought off the App Store got a £30 wifi obd2 reader. Says it reads and resets code, never needed to try it tho. Friend bough one when he was fitting a turbo to his honda. Looked good so I bought one.

I tried it in the one ten and it worked really well.

Mounted above clock

Fault report

GrumpyGel said:

Rather than spending a hundred quid or 3, is something like this not just as good...

Free shipping ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII ODB2 Diagnostic Interface Scanner , Elm 327 Bluetooth Car Scan Tool For Multi Brands -in Code Readers & Scan Tools from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com

5 quid shipped.

It recons it can read and crear codes.

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It will just do the engine ecu and nothing else.....unless you 2005 upwards, then you may get access to other modules....still worth the 5 bucks thou

andyfreelandy said:

As mentioned in a previous thread, I bought the i930 for my Freelander 1.

I have used it with success to read and clear engine codes. But have just sent this to their tech support as most other functions don't work.

Problems encountered when doing anything other than engine code reads and live data which work fine.

Auto Gearbox shows ‘Fault in Comm with ECU’ when looking for fault codes and the live data is erroneous – e.g. input speed is 13158 RPM when at tickover.

ABS – shows wheels turning at o.41 MPH when stationary. Other data does not respond to car.

SRS shows ‘Fault in Comm with ECU’.

Instrument Pack is not showing correct data. e.g. not seeing A/C switch operating and showing engine at 5159 RPM when at tickover.

Security check shows ignition off when it is on and door open when closed. Data doesn’t update.

Any others found same problems??

Thanks, Andrew

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Sounds like the same problems the hawkeyes got?

I wonder if its a clone of there software but unlocked to all vehicles?

Maybe cloned. I undertook some while ago to evaluate and feedback. So I will stay on the case with icarsoft technical department and let you know how it goes. I have made the point that this information is being shared among other FL1 owners !!!

Update from my experience so far using i930
I had purchased a replacement srs ecu from scrapyard on ebay, reader showing seven faults including front end crash, have emailed scrapyard but no response probably because I bought part more than 45 days ago. Anyway put my ecu back in and then reader only fault was the srs light on, so cleared the fault and srs light went out so now a happy chappy. The reader is showing a fault reading main ecu but so far I am happy having cleared my problem for mot (here in Sweden)

well pleased with my icarsofti930 I didn't have any dash light on or any problems that I knew of
plugged it in and it found 1 fault p0100 air flow meter after investigation and repair it cleared the fault

so I disconnected the brake pedal swith and reconnected it and I had 3 amigos light up plugged in i390 and it found the fault and I cleared them no problem I also disconnected the air bag and underseat connectors srs light would not go out on reconnection fault found and cleared with i390
seems to work pretty well to me a good investment £90 well spent

kevins said:

well pleased with my icarsofti930 I didn't have any dash light on or any problems that I knew of
plugged it in and it found 1 fault p0100 air flow meter after investigation and repair it cleared the fault

so I disconnected the brake pedal swith and reconnected it and I had 3 amigos light up plugged in i390 and it found the fault and I cleared them no problem I also disconnected the air bag and underseat connectors srs light would not go out on reconnection fault found and cleared with i390
seems to work pretty well to me a good investment £90 well spent

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That's pretty impressive. As you say good value.

GrumpyGel said:

Rather than spending a hundred quid or 3, is something like this not just as good...

Free shipping ELM327 Bluetooth OBDII ODB2 Diagnostic Interface Scanner , Elm 327 Bluetooth Car Scan Tool For Multi Brands -in Code Readers & Scan Tools from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com

5 quid shipped.

It recons it can read and crear codes.

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Well I ordered it and for my 5 quid it arrived in the post within 2 weeks and was accompanied with a CD containing a lot of thrown together downloads - nothing else though - like instructions on what you need to install !

My PC picked it up and registered it as a blue tooth device immediately.

I installed the ScanTool software and that just hung everytime it tried to configure itself. Lots of uninstalling, reinstalling & rebooting - still just hung. So tried another piece of software EasyOdbII. This didn't hang, but it when it configured itself, it couldn't find the ODBII Reader. Luckily the log said it tried COM3, COM4 and COM5 - and Windoze had registered it as COM7 - so that was the problem. Quick shify at the EasyOdbII info and it says it can use ports uo to COM25 - but I couldn't find any way of getting it to do that - so ditched that software as well.

Did a lot of trawling through the web to find info on ODBII and downloaded various PDFs etc and its obvious the ODBII reader is very much like a modem that you use to hook into the 'network'. The downloaded info contained various commands to send to the reader and what responses to get back - and they're all text - so a good old fashioned terminal emulator should do the trick.

That's when I found out that the 'trusty' Hyperterminal isn't shipped with Windows7 - so downloaded and installed a 3rd party Hyper terminal. Fired it up, configured it for COM7, typed in a command and hey presto got the expected response back.

Cooking on gas at last

So after playing around with the commands to configure the reader and all working well - I then tried to get some info from the car! Every command I typed in got "Unable to Connect" - meaning the ODBII reader couldn't talk to the Freelander - bugger!

So at that point I called it a day.

I'm confident it will talk to the Freelander, I probably need to tell it which protocol to use or something. I'm also confident it will talk to other modules, not just the engine, as the i930 can. I presume the tablet (Android/Apple) software would communicate with the reader easier as well.

So I suppose the moral of the story is that you pay your money and you take your choice. I think a cheap reader and paid/download tablet software will give you a decent view of your engine. Paying a bit more for a Freelander packaged device like the i930 is decent money spent if you want a quick, turn key solution.

I want to create some bespoke software, so I'm going to persevere with this little device and hopefully I can get it talking OK. But it will take some time.

It is amazing in this day-and-age where information on everything is available on the web, that the ODBII/CAN codes used by car makers isn't !!