Gotta be a ringer? Anyone on here know it before or after?

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Saw this:

HYBRID LAND ROVER SERIES 3 | eBay


While firstly wondering exactly which bits are actually off a Series 3, I began wondering if anyone might recognise it....

The seller might be innocent but I can't see myself how this could possibly be registered legally as an S3. :(

Thoughts?
 
Make Land Rover
Model-Series Series III
Model 88 Base
Year 1975
Vin Build Month/Year
Chassis No. 90116331A
Engine No. A63100
Engine Model Code
Fuel Type Petrol
Engine Capacity 2286
Power (KW) 49
Turbo Naturally Aspirated
Valves 8V
Drive Type 4WD
Transmission Manual
No. of Gears 4 Gears
Body Style 3 Door Station Wagon
Colour GREY
 
SteNova said:
Make Land Rover
Model-Series Series III
Model 88 Base
Year 1975
Vin Build Month/Year
Chassis No. 90116331A
Engine No. A63100
Engine Model Code
Fuel Type Petrol
Engine Capacity 2286
Power (KW) 49
Turbo Naturally Aspirated
Valves 8V
Drive Type 4WD
Transmission Manual
No. of Gears 4 Gears
Body Style 3 Door Station Wagon
Colour GREY
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Those details belong to the original S111 that carried the registration, the vehicle up for sale is not the same one. the only thing matching is the number plate. ITS A RINGER...............
 
shenton24 said:
He doesnt accept paypal either
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Would you accept pay pal for a car?

Has anyone noticed the bulkhead outrigger looks like a proper 88"series one?
If it wasnt for the coiler rear crossmember it could almost be a series/coil chassis that a company called designa chassis used to make in the nineties when coil springers were out of reach financially .

Ringer
 
My thoughts too.. Now, I can kind of understand fitting coils to a Series 3 and even the transfer, box and TDi engine, but why would you fit the dashboard and whole body, bulkhead, screen etc? IMO it's a dead ringer and that's it.
 
it looks all post 1992 (300) to me, Looks as if it was originally red.
I doubt the guy selling it knows any different but its way to much like a ringer to me.
Smooth roof, Dash, clocks, screen, axles, i bet even the engine is original to the car.
The engine number listed for it is for the series 3 2.25 engine.
I wouldnt mind betting the old engine number has been stamped onto the v8, either that or it hasnt got one.
I bet its a 1990s original red V8 thats been knicked and quickly painted over
RINGER
 
pressbrake said:
Would you accept pay pal for a car?

Has anyone noticed the bulkhead outrigger looks like a proper 88"series one?
If it wasnt for the coiler rear crossmember it could almost be a series/coil chassis that a company called designa chassis used to make in the nineties when coil springers were out of reach financially .

Ringer
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Why wouldnt you accept paypal for a car? Would it not be a safer way to pay and refund if the person fount out it wasnt straight
 
shenton24 said:
Why wouldnt you accept paypal for a car? Would it not be a safer way to pay and refund if the person fount out it wasnt straight
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Not defending the seller, i agree it looks like a ringer, but, never ever accept paypal when selling a motor - you open yourself up for too much fraud.

A few examples:

1. Person sells car, buyer pays by paypal, collects, opens paypal dispute saying they never received item, paypal ask seller for proof of postage, seller points out it was collection only, provides signed copy of V5 for evidence, Paypal refund the seller as buyer couldn't provide proof of postage :eek:

2. Private sales of cars don't come with warranty, buyer has a problem 2 months after buying car, buyer can open Paypal dispute, get full refund, return a car with several thousand more miles on the clock + broken. Car may have been bashed up and all sorts in that time, seller has nothing to stand on cus paypal just take the money off them.
 
This is a bit like my hybrid.

I think you'll find its a series three body that's been fixed on top of an early Range Rover chassis. If it's a SWB (it looks like it) you need to check whether the chassis has been cut & shut and whether it's been properly done and it's straight. There were quiet a few done like this pre-1995 when early RRs were cheap and readily available.

I suspect the engine is the original V8 that was fitted in the RR, which made it a simple job to create, though—as well as the chassis chop—it's important to check how the body has been attached to the chassis. Also check that the steering has been put together properly, as there's probably been welding needed to the steering column. Like mine, the grill is from a later Defender, but that's a very simple swap of a few superficial components which provides more room in front of the engine.

The bottom line is that it could be OK provided the conversion was done pre-'95 and it's been done properly and all the changes are correct on the V5.

A question: does the DVLA provide a list of changes and when they were recorded? If so, the seller would be wise to get that list to show to potential customers.
 
I doubt it in this case as the bulkhead, screen and dash are pure Defender/90. There's nothing Series in this vehicle that I can see....


I do remember the days when the 90/110 front end kits were readily available for Series motors to update them, but this ain't one of them IMO... ;)
 
Bump said:
Not defending the seller, i agree it looks like a ringer, but, never ever accept paypal when selling a motor - you open yourself up for too much fraud.

A few examples:

1. Person sells car, buyer pays by paypal, collects, opens paypal dispute saying they never received item, paypal ask seller for proof of postage, seller points out it was collection only, provides signed copy of V5 for evidence, Paypal refund the seller as buyer couldn't provide proof of postage :eek:

2. Private sales of cars don't come with warranty, buyer has a problem 2 months after buying car, buyer can open Paypal dispute, get full refund, return a car with several thousand more miles on the clock + broken. Car may have been bashed up and all sorts in that time, seller has nothing to stand on cus paypal just take the money off them.
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I never throught of it like that ive never sold a motor on ebay so i wouldnt know very good to know through :D
 
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