Fuse box change - diesel

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kapilamuni

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Hi Guys,
Few times TC light stayed on just after starting and noted that ABS Pump is not running.. Managed to get the light off by wriggling the ABS relay.
Since this continued few times and the fuse box is original factory fitted one (AMR3376) , changed the fuse box to AMR6477, together with ABS relay (brand new LR parts). After fitting the new fuse box started the car and ABS, HAND BRAKE & TC lights stays on. also the ABS pump is not running.
Incidentally, my NANOCOM says unable to communicate with ABS ECU.
Appreciate your views. (This is my daily runner.)
 
Hi Guys,
Few times TC light stayed on just after starting and noted that ABS Pump is not running.. Managed to get the light off by wriggling the ABS relay.
Since this continued few times and the fuse box is original factory fitted one (AMR3376) , changed the fuse box to AMR6477, together with ABS relay (brand new LR parts). After fitting the new fuse box started the car and ABS, HAND BRAKE & TC lights stays on. also the ABS pump is not running.
Incidentally, my NANOCOM says unable to communicate with ABS ECU.
Appreciate your views. (This is my daily runner.)

Did you change ABS power relay, relay 2, Yellow or ABS pump relay, Black, relay 17?

This family of ABS ECU's, denoted C type, have common characteristic in the diagnostic element of their design. This is that once they have been communicated with diagnostically and then put to sleep they inhibit the communication with other ECUs sharing the same data bus and even with themselves. To re-establish diagnostic communication, the ignition must be turned off for approximately five seconds. It is only possible to communicate with the ABS ECU when the system is in its idle state, that is with the ignition on and the engine running or not. Once the ECU has detected a signal from all sensors that indicates each one has exceeded 2km/h the ECU turns off the dash lamp and exits diagnostic mode. All ECU resources are then used to monitor the sensors and diagnostic communication is no longer possible until the ignition supply has been disconnected and then re-connected. Despite sharing a common communication standard which means they all start communicating the same, and share some very basic features, these ECU’s are actually laid out very differently in respect of their memory usage meaning codes read from one ECU with the wrong program may give incorrect meaning and other codes may not be shown. Also some of them actually require each memory location used for the fault code storage to be re programmed to 0 individually. This means that using the wrong module on an ECU can alter the ECU and make it non functional, re using the right module after will not correct this. So although the ECU’s look identical to that used in other vehicles of the same age and can be plugged in, they are NOT diagnostic
 
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The black relay(no. 17) changed but not the relay 2. All fuses together with maxi ones came with the new fuse box.
The ABS ECU is the original one I guess as I didn't change it. In fact, I have no idea where it's located too.

I have removed the relay 17 and connected a wire directly and the motor started running. So I guess it's the the pressure switch at fault.
Will try the Nanocom again the way you said.
 
Did you change ABS power relay, relay 2, Yellow or ABS pump relay, Black, relay 17?

This family of ABS ECU's, denoted C type, have common characteristic in the diagnostic element of their design. This is that once they have been communicated with diagnostically and then put to sleep they inhibit the communication with other ECUs sharing the same data bus and even with themselves. To re-establish diagnostic communication, the ignition must be turned off for approximately five seconds. It is only possible to communicate with the ABS ECU when the system is in its idle state, that is with the ignition on and the engine running or not. Once the ECU has detected a signal from all sensors that indicates each one has exceeded 2km/h the ECU turns off the dash lamp and exits diagnostic mode. All ECU resources are then used to monitor the sensors and diagnostic communication is no longer possible until the ignition supply has been disconnected and then re-connected. Despite sharing a common communication standard which means they all start communicating the same, and share some very basic features, these ECU’s are actually laid out very differently in respect of their memory usage meaning codes read from one ECU with the wrong program may give incorrect meaning and other codes may not be shown. Also some of them actually require each memory location used for the fault code storage to be re programmed to 0 individually. This means that using the wrong module on an ECU can alter the ECU and make it non functional, re using the right module after will not correct this. So although the ECU’s look identical to that used in other vehicles of the same age and can be plugged in, they are NOT diagnostic
Damn, did you take a breath?
I bet you could say that all in one go couldn't you wammers.:p;)
 
No luck with Nanocom, still 'unable to communicate with ECU'. How to get this thing working again?
My guess is that the ABS issue, a coincidence with the new fuse box.
Checked the prices of pressure switches, ................prohibitive.:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
............................. This means that using the wrong module on an ECU can alter the ECU and make it non functional, re using the right module after will not correct this. .........................................

You mean that if I use Nancom option, Wabco D on Wabco C, then it will go non functional?
 
You asked were the abs ecu is, it is on rhd above the passenger feet behind the glove box there is a panel above you feet with the obd socket in it is above there, may be worth a good clean with contact cleaner and plugging in an out a few times.
 
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