Fueling issues?

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Lol, atleast it was of some use then!! The fuel pump drive pulley is driven by the cambelt so just changing the serpentine belt could in no way of caused the timing to be out :) I would invest in a set of jump leads of a brand new battery, ideally you need to be cranking for a lot longer than that, but in short bursts,ime 10 seconds at a time, one you've done all I've listed above, if you still have problems, let us know and one of us will be able to get it sorted
 
Thanks, well if the injection pump is running off one of the cam pullys (therefore 100% mechanical when feeding 12v to the fuel shut off solenoid) and I'm bypassing immobiliser and spyder along with running the diesel direct from a drum into a new lift pump - then it can only be air stopping it from getting to the injectors!
 
Sounds all correct mate, aslong as fuel is getting into the injection pump then in theory it should have diesel at the injector pipes!! Once that's sorted its a case of getting rid of that nasty spyder ****e!
 
Still no joy, am getting fuel okay up to bleed valve on top of fuel filter, it's getting it through the fuel pump I'm having the problem.
Have even removed the pin from the stop solenoid!
I now now it's not the stop solenoid that's causing the loud buzzing though, once I remove this 3-pin plug it stops:
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Any ideas whether this could be causing the problem? Spyder??
Any help to getting this running much appreciated, am getting very fed up now :(
 
You've tried everything I can think of at the moment, They didn't fit a second stop solenoid specificly for the immobiliser did they? I'd be looking at immobiliser at this point.

Have you got fuel right up to the injection pump?

Sorry if I've missed something, why cant you turn the engine over in the normal way i.e. with the key?

If it's like some old rovers and hondas (same keyfob), turn the ignition on and press the lock button - you may find that re-programs the alarm etc.

Just this once, a go with easy start might help you - I've seen it cure some very odd problems in the past BUT - don't go mad and dont make a habit of using it - it's not good for your engine.

When your turning it over, slacken all four injector pipes. Hope this helps.
 
Update - fuels coming out of hole where stop solenoid sits - what the hell can be stopping it from coming out of injector feed pipes??
I currently have all if them disconnected from the injectors and not a drop if fuel!!
Am still turning engine over by connecting starter solenoid (brown+orange cable in footwell) direct to starter solenoid, ignition on and a direct feed to stop solenoid,
very confused....
 
Is this the EDC?
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what ever it isi think it must be stoping the diesel from getting out the pump.
Can it be removed/ bypassed? Thanks
 
gR@HaM said:
Update - fuels coming out of hole where stop solenoid sits - what the hell can be stopping it from coming out of injector feed pipes??
I currently have all if them disconnected from the injectors and not a drop if fuel!!
Am still turning engine over by connecting starter solenoid (brown+orange cable in footwell) direct to starter solenoid, ignition on and a direct feed to stop solenoid,
very confused....
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there may be your problem-I'm guessing no power to edc unit=no fuel
 
Ok I'll make it really simple
ignition feed to edc control unit, ignition feed to starter solenoid -unless anything else is screwed=should run.

Failing that rip the edc pump off and put a non edc pump on as per previous link
 
Thanks guys, it seems that I am back at square one with an immobilser issue then. Doesn't seem to be any way of starting the engine with all these electrical gubbins :(
 
yes there is locate the wiring diagram in rave,
power up the edc ignition controlled live-which should run through immobiliser hopefully.

unless the immobiliser sends a coded signal to the edc unit=it should supply fuel.
I've go to go out-but if someone has a din diagram or rave and posts the diagram I can look at for you
 
Fanatic, sorry to be a PITA - do you know where the EDC feed wire us located? Looked I'm haynes and can't find it, don't have rave etc as am on PDA..
 
Okay, there are 2 wires going into the EDC ECU

brown+purple: 12v feed when ignition on

Brown+orange: no feed. You think I should wire this one to the +ve could it be an earth?
 
fanatic said:
yes there is locate the wiring diagram in rave,
power up the edc ignition controlled live-which should run through immobiliser hopefully.

unless the immobiliser sends a coded signal to the edc unit=it should supply fuel.
I've go to go out-but if someone has a din diagram or rave and posts the diagram I can look at for you
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Thanks Fanatic :)
Hopefully someone on here can help! I don't have access to pc at home so can't get RAVE.
 
fanatic said:
yes there is locate the wiring diagram in rave,
power up the edc ignition controlled live-which should run through immobiliser hopefully.

unless the immobiliser sends a coded signal to the edc unit=it should supply fuel.
I've go to go out-but if someone has a din diagram or rave and posts the diagram I can look at for you
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My understanding is, that when you are talking about an EDC engined car, there is no separate spider/immobiliser, as that function is built-into the main ECU.

Incidently, there is no such thing as an EDC - it is LR's name for an ECU controlled engine and stands for Electronic Diesel Control - EDC.
 
thebiglad said:
My understanding is, that when you are talking about an EDC engined car, there is no separate spider/immobiliser, as that function is built-into the main ECU.

Incidently, there is no such thing as an EDC - it is LR's name for an ECU controlled engine and stands for Electronic Diesel Control - EDC.
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If and only if green alarm immobiliser/box under the passenger side kick panel!! (200tdi's I know, 300 edc not played with)
the orange wire with a black tracer from starter relay earthed that out and hopefully will crank on key.

But a diagram would confirm if it still runs through alarm box
 
:5bwilly_nilly:dam it> should of asked if it was edc!! chances are it is the edc being a bastid,get onto rave ad find the wiring diagram for edc pump,as fanatic said,ignition live to edc unit and it should run!
 
Dollydisco, fanatic - thanks for all the help, I has now got it started (although feel a fool!!)
whilst at the point of verrry nearly smashing the disco with a lump hammer a mate came round to have a look see as he knows a lot about cars. Whilst explaining what I had tried thus far, I turned over the small piece of card from LR to find that the code I had been entering in drivers door lock to bypass immobiliser was 'security code', on the back of the card states the 'emergency code'!!!
Wanged the other code in, no sound from alarm to tell me whether it had worked as thd siron has been smashed to pieces.. but the immobiliser light had gone out!!
Wh00p wh00p, engine fired up a treat :)
Was VERY satisfying to see no leaks once it had warmed up, my first ever top end recon!
Slight issue now with engine cutting out once it warms up which I guess will be a sensor of somesort playing up and giving EDC a false reading..
So, today's plan is to get ABS module back in and clean up underside of front end.
No doubt will be in touch with more questions!!!!
 
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