Hi I hope I have put this post in the right place. I am new here. I am replacing the front driveshafts and noticed the old ones have no ABS sensor teeth. The new ones: RH has teeth but LH none. I assume the ABS wont ever work as long as there is no signal from either wheel. Illustrations from Google generally show both sides having no teeth but some do. Part number RH:TDB104980 and LH:TDB104990. Any ideas would be very welcome-cheers.
Freelander TD4 Driveshaft ABS teeth
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I'm assuming you're fitting aftermarket shafts, which haven't been ordered using the chassis number.
Be warned that aftermarket shafts vibrate, which eventually causes failure of the gearbox or IRD output bearings.
If you didn't have ABS rings on the old shafts, then you don't need them on the replacements, but do only fit GKN (OE) shafts.
Be warned that aftermarket shafts vibrate, which eventually causes failure of the gearbox or IRD output bearings.
If you didn't have ABS rings on the old shafts, then you don't need them on the replacements, but do only fit GKN (OE) shafts.
Thank you for your very quick reply. The vehicle is rather old and a bit rusty worth only about 600 quid. Alas, therefore I went for cheap ones! I used the Hardy Spicer part numbers and It appears that the Chinese have copied the numbers as well as the parts!!! I realise the GKN ones will have been balanced properly prior to dispatch so I'll have see just how bad the Chinese ones are.
IMO GKN drive shafts will work out cheaper if the ones you have vibrate... but since you have them, you could give it a shot.
I'm still not sure what age your Freelander is? If there are no reluctor rings on your old drive shaft then either your car is an early, basic Pre-2000 FL1 without ABS or HDC, or a much later (facelift) one with magnets in the bearing for the ABS sensor. If the latter, then you may find that the ABS light will be on, along with the other "amigos" - hill descent and traction control warning lamps: the shaft with the ABS reluctor ring will not be compatible.
If the former, it won't matter - and since you have the drive shafts anyway, probably worth the punt to see whether they are acceptable or not.
I'm still not sure what age your Freelander is? If there are no reluctor rings on your old drive shaft then either your car is an early, basic Pre-2000 FL1 without ABS or HDC, or a much later (facelift) one with magnets in the bearing for the ABS sensor. If the latter, then you may find that the ABS light will be on, along with the other "amigos" - hill descent and traction control warning lamps: the shaft with the ABS reluctor ring will not be compatible.
If the former, it won't matter - and since you have the drive shafts anyway, probably worth the punt to see whether they are acceptable or not.
Hi, the vehicle is a 2002 TD4 GS diesel with the BMW M47 motor. There are cables and sensors on the wheel hubs. As said before, the old shafts had no teeth on them, not sure if the ABS ever worked. I have never seen any dasboard lights on concerning the ABS, I can only assume that if no signal on both sides is present then the ABS system would be none the wiser and therefore not make the driver aware of anything amiss, perhaps? Maybe there is a reluctor buried beneath the plain surface? - thanks for your comments and suggestions, maybe the info I gave you may help.
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Hopefully this doesnt derail the thread, but I'm going to be doing a full set of wheel bearings soon, and seeing this thread got me wondering about renewing the abs rings while I have the hubs off the shafts... So I ordered a set of rings from eBay, but was wondering do I need an adhesive on there as well, or are they an inference fit onto the shaft? Reason I ask is there seems to be a lot of adverts for "ABS Ring Retainer" compounds?
You're better off using second hand genuine shafts, in preference to cheap ones.
It's nothing to do with the balance of the cheap shafts. It's a problem with the design of the inboard tripod joint. The GKN inner joint doesn't stiffen under load, but the cheap ones do, all of them do. This puts huge radial loads on the output bearings, which breaks them up. It's much more expensive to replace the output bearings, then fit second hand OE drive shafts.
A 2002 TD4 will have ABS, so you should see the ABS lights illuminate on starting the engine.
