Freelander 1.8 Turbo

Nodge68 · Feb 12, 2015

disco_mikey said:
Managed a few (crude) 0-60 runs this evening

1.8 - 0-60 is 11.1s
KV6 - 0-60 is 9.8s

I recorded a fairly consistent 8.2-8.3s

Some nice times there Mikey. I suspect that the V6 would be a tad faster than turbo, if it had the manual box. Obviously your turbo will be better on fuel.
Well done.

disco_mikey · Feb 12, 2015

KV6 and Autobox are heavy lumps, around 100kg extra IIRC. Weight plays a big part in it too.

Hoping to get rid of some unnecessary weight too. Bits and pieces that are not needed. Every little helps

ColinNI · Feb 13, 2015

disco_mikey said:
Managed a few (crude) 0-60 runs this evening

1.8 - 0-60 is 11.1s
KV6 - 0-60 is 9.8s

I recorded a fairly consistent 8.2-8.3s

Only just over half a second slower than a 190 zt. That's dam good going in a freelander.

Nodge68 · Feb 13, 2015

disco_mikey said:
KV6 and Autobox are heavy lumps, around 100kg extra IIRC. Weight plays a big part in it too.

Hoping to get rid of some unnecessary weight too. Bits and pieces that are not needed. Every little helps

Agreed. The V6 engine is 150 Kg's dressed, the 1.8 is around 80 Kg's. The manual PG1 box is around 35 Kg's, the Jatco auto box is nudging 100 Kg's dressed.
The weight advantage is clear. The turbo engine also has a sequential injection system like that of the V6. This helps give economy a much needed boost.

ColinNI · Feb 14, 2015

Did z and f tuning throw a map file on her also?

jda070504 · Feb 14, 2015

I've been looking into this conversion recently. Was planning a vvc conversion late last year but circumstances didn't allow. The main stumbler for me would be to convert from the early mems 1.9 to mems 3 for the 1.8t. How did you get around the crank sensor signal issue?

Nodge68 · Feb 14, 2015

jda070504 said:
I've been looking into this conversion recently. Was planning a vvc conversion late last year but circumstances didn't allow. The main stumbler for me would be to convert from the early mems 1.9 to mems 3 for the 1.8t. How did you get around the crank sensor signal issue?

Mikey used an after market ECU iirc.

On the VVC conversion. The MEMS 1.9 (early Freelander) and the MEMS 2J used in the early VVC installations, use the same sensors for the crank.
The VVC has a cam sensor and a couple of other sensors, as well as the VVC control valve solenoids and the ignition coil pack connections.
Otherwise it's much the same ECU. The VVC harness will need to be grafted into the Freelander's harness but it's very doable. Once all the appropriate connections are made, the ECU will need to be programmed to the Freelander's alarm.
The VVC installation is easier in the early Freelander than the turbo installation as MGR already did it for production models sold. This means parts are available, if you know where to look.

jda070504 · Feb 14, 2015

Is it possible to use an MGR steptronic ecu which z&f tuning can map for a 1.8t conversion into MGR's. Would that allow for the pg1 crank signal to work?

disco_mikey · Feb 14, 2015

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1p1ZwBHmCw

Lucky enough to have had it on some private ground this morning. Can confirm it pulls like a train up.to 100mph, and still keeps pulling!

Diesel Do · Feb 14, 2015

Fuel light on? Doh

Diesel Do · Feb 14, 2015

Love it! What does it handle like?

jda070504 · Feb 14, 2015

Love it

RealBeale · Feb 14, 2015

I've been following this thread with interest. I do believe that this will now be the conversion of choice.Excellent work. I'll be looking in to this for a new project later in the year.

Alibro · Feb 14, 2015

Am I right in saying 0 - 60 is well under 7 secs?

That's quicker than my MGF VVC.

htr · Feb 14, 2015

New tyres soon I'd say

You've made so many of us very envious:lol:

disco_mikey · Feb 14, 2015

It wasn't easy, it wasn't cheap.

But every time I drive it, it makes me smile

The brakes are utter ****e. A heavy stop from 70-20mph while see the pedal sink to the floor. I imagine a 2nd heavy stop would see nothing but fade, and a pair of brown trousers would be needed
Going to have to look into bigger, or uprated brakes shortly...

It handles like a boat. Soggy bushes and 115k miles have taken their toll. I have a set of Superpro bushes to go on, when I get a chance.
Unfortunately, my day job is taking over again, which leaves me less time to play with this.

And my daily driver needs a new Autobox, so need to find £4k to replace that...

jda070504 · Feb 14, 2015

I know the MG boys use standard mems 3 loom and ecu for the 1.8t conversions. The 2 paths they follow are using a mapped standard mems 3 and running a manual boost controller. Or using a mems3 steptronic ecu which can be programmed to run the boost signal and running approx 180bhp.

Both these retain the standard 1.8k loom and even the mems 3 ecu can be used. How come the freelander seems a little more complicated? Is there a reason a 1.8t mated to a 1.8 flywheel and box running standard mems 3 decoded and loom with mbc not work?

Alibro · Feb 14, 2015

htr said:
New tyres soon I'd say

You've made so many of us very envious:lol:

LOL, especially the trattor brigade, not too many of em can go like that. :mooning:

fanatic · Feb 14, 2015

Alibro said:
LOL, especially the trattor brigade, not too many of em can go like that. :mooning:

Quad cam v8 ta and ZEN has super charged nitrous version

Alibro · Feb 15, 2015

LOL, My Bad!

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