Freelander 2 (LR2) FL2 Rear Diff Seizure.

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I know it's off topic, but there is a Freelander Crayford full convertible model too. Did a Crayford vehicle ever get made?? Rather fancy cutting roof off. :eek:
 
andyfreelandy said:
I know it's off topic, but there is a Freelander Crayford full convertible model too. Did a Crayford vehicle ever get made?? Rather fancy cutting roof off. :eek:
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A one off might have been made, although it could have just need a testbed for the very similar RR Evoque.
 
One (or more) question (s):
I had seen two Fl2 2.2 TD4 HSE one manual and other authomatic. one MY07 and other MY08.
Do you think is better manual with new clutch or authomatic?
Are there any known torque converter or solenoid faults?
Do yo know in what year LR installed haldex gen4 or from frame number?
Is the same rear differential in those years? Is there anny change in rear differentials during all of years of production?
Thanks experts.
 
freespaña said:
I had seen two Fl2 2.2 TD4 HSE one manual and other authomatic. one MY07 and other MY08.
Do you think is better manual with new clutch or authomatic?
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Automatics drive better, but manuals are more fuel efficient. It doesn't seem to make a difficult as to diff failure.
freespaña said:
Are there any known torque converter or solenoid faults?
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I don't know the answer to that.
freespaña said:
Do yo know in what year LR installed haldex gen4 or from frame number?
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From MY2009 or from frame/chassis No 9H000001.

freespaña said:
Is the same rear differential in those years? Is there anny change in rear differentials during all of years of production?
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All rear diffs are interchangeable, but from 2011 onwards, a larger pinion tail bearing was fitted. This didn't stop the bearings failing though, as the original small bearing was adequately sized to start with.
The issue is the pinion is set at too higher pre-load from the factory, and the lubrication to the tail bearing is pathetic.
 
So to draw a line under this issue now.
The rebuilt Evoque replacement diff is in, and the Haldex is serviced too.
It's now quiet and the Haldex is transferring drive the way it should, so hopefully that's the diff sorted for good.

I'll strip the seized diff, and post more pictures, when it's apart.
 
Nodge68 said:
So to draw a line under this issue now.
The rebuilt Evoque replacement diff is in, and the Haldex is serviced too.
It's now quiet and the Haldex is transferring drive the way it should, so hopefully that's the diff sorted for good.

I'll strip the seized diff, and post more pictures, when it's apart.
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Woo Hoo! Nice one Nodge.
Well done for sticking with it, lesser men would have thrown the towel in months ago. :)
 
Yes well done. I must confess to being someone who never gives in. Almost like a dog with a new bone. Especially when it appears unsolvable.
 
Alibro said:
Woo Hoo! Nice one Nodge.
Well done for sticking with it, lesser men would have thrown the towel in months ago. :)
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Thanks Ali. I must admit that I'm aching now, I guess it's working seldom used muscles. :oops:

At least its done, although the quick test drive was done with much trepidation, but the diff seems fine.:)

The front brakes are a different matter however, so I'll get on those, once the new calipers arrive.
 
Henry_b said:
So it's nearly 100% is the misfire fixed?
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Well here's the odd thing. The misfire hasn't affected the way the engine runs, and before the diff seized, I had been using her as my daily driver.

It does misfire if I give her some serious beans, but I don't drive like that, so I don't get the misfire. I've also discovered the it runs on 4 from cold faster than it did, almost like whatever the issue was, is fixing itself.

I've even wondered if the fuel had gone off, which has been diluted by a subsequent fill?

I don't know, but I took it round the block after doing the diff, and she drove like a dream, although the front brakes judder, and the clutch is a little softer than I remember it, probably caused by me driving it off the road, with the back wheel dragging. :(
 
Nodge68 said:
Well here's the odd thing. The misfire hasn't affected the way the engine runs, and before the diff seized, I had been using her as my daily driver.

It does misfire if I give her some serious beans, but I don't drive like that, so I don't get the misfire. I've also discovered the it runs on 4 from cold faster than it did, almost like whatever the issue was, is fixing itself.

I've even wondered if the fuel had gone off, which has been diluted by a subsequent fill?

I don't know, but I took it round the block after doing the diff, and she drove like a dream, although the front brakes judder, and the clutch is a little softer than I remember it, probably caused by me driving it off the road, with the back wheel dragging. :(
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It could be bad diesel, maybe the diesel has some water in it, a mate of mine bought a 2.5DSE which i'm working on, the seller i'm pretty sure dumped a gallon of water in tank :mad:

it ran like shyte and still has a slight misfire draining the tank and putting £60 of super diesel and Millers cleaner sorted it out!

As for the clutch, I've done 3 of them and it isn't the easiest thing without a lift, a shame the FL2 seems to eat clutches..

I doubt a locked wheel would of killed a healthy one though.
 
Nodge68 said:
So to draw a line under this issue now.
The rebuilt Evoque replacement diff is in, and the Haldex is serviced too.
It's now quiet and the Haldex is transferring drive the way it should, so hopefully that's the diff sorted for good.

I'll strip the seized diff, and post more pictures, when it's apart.
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Congratulations! I'm delighted to hear that you've got the diff' sorted now, you've done well John, especially rolling about working under a car, outside, in these freezing conditions. I'm going to recommend an old hydraulics tech remedy "BeeBee" - Beer + 'Buprofen, the latter might help with the aches and pains, the former will toast the job well done and maybe make you less concerned about any aches that the brufen doesn't remedy.
 
Henry_b said:
It could be bad diesel, maybe the diesel has some water in it,
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I'm hoping it's duff diesel. I've just put 20 litres in the tank, along with a bottle of Comma Diesel Magic, in preparation for the MOT at 13:00 today.

It still has a slight misfire, which is definitely worse when the engine is cold, and the throttle is pressed quickly.
Another fault manifested its after stopping for milk on route to the MOT center. This fault stopped the throttle from responding for a few seconds after I'd started the engine, but then seemed to go away again. :(
Henry_b said:
I doubt a locked wheel would of killed a healthy one though.
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I did have to drive it off the road for some distance, with both rear wheels not turning, and presumably the Haldex was doing its best to turn the diff too.:eek:
The clutch definitely feels softer than it did, but hopefully it'll last for the next year or two.
Jayridium said:
Congratulations! I'm delighted to hear that you've got the diff' sorted now, you've done well John, especially rolling about working under a car, outside, in these freezing conditions.
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Cheers.
It's done and is lovely and quiet from the rear now, actually it's just lovely and quiet to drive in general. It's definitely a much more refined vehicle compared to the FL1, but then it's a 10 year newer design. :)
 
Hi John.
Not been on forum for at least a month due to be poorly, great to hear you sorted out the rear diff, and the FL2 is more or less up to scratch, i will starting mine today after 5 weeks not being driven, hope all will be ok, will also look forward to the dedicated thread you are going to do.
 
Arctic2 said:
Hi John.
Not been on forum for at least a month due to be poorly, great to hear you sorted out the rear diff, and the FL2 is more or less up to scratch, i will starting mine today after 5 weeks not being driven, hope all will be ok, will also look forward to the dedicated thread you are going to do.
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Thanks Arctic. ;)
The diff is quiet, so just this silly misfire to sort.
I'm hoping that once I've got the DIY out the way, I can look at the misfire again.

I'll do the diff rebuild thread, once I've time.
;)
 
Arctic2 said:
Hi John.
Not been on forum for at least a month due to be poorly, great to hear you sorted out the rear diff, and the FL2 is more or less up to scratch, i will starting mine today after 5 weeks not being driven, hope all will be ok, will also look forward to the dedicated thread you are going to do.
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Sorry to hear you've been unwell.:( Hope you're on the mend. :)
 
[QUOTE="Nodge68, post: 5102522, member: 79035"
I'll do the diff rebuild thread, once I've time.
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I’ll be looking fwd to it Nodge, as and when , see if I can motivate myself to sort mine.
 
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