engine oil filters

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

There are a few different brands of oil filter out there for our motors, Genuine/OEM, Mann, Mahle, Britpart, Crosland, Bosch, Fram and I'm sure I've missed a few.
Whats your preference, cheapest? Dearest? Or do you just pick up the first one listed? Do you have a preferred brand? Have you ever taken your old one apart to see whats in it?

dieseldog69 · Apr 28, 2020

kermit_rr said:
There are a few different brands of oil filter out there for our motors, Genuine/OEM, Mann, Mahle, Britpart, Crosland, Bosch, Fram and I'm sure I've missed a few.
Whats your preference, cheapest? Dearest? Or do you just pick up the first one listed? Do you have a preferred brand? Have you ever taken your old one apart to see whats in it?

Cooper Fram or Mahle unless the genuine are on offer.

Fuel filters are best to buy dear ones, I found cheap ones are inferior.

bankz5152 · Apr 28, 2020

Genuine > Mann > Mahl.

The quality difference is huge between Mann and ebay "service kits"

As above dont skimp on fuel filters.

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

I was thinking OEM as less than a tenner
I should probably order a fuel filter while I'm at it!

gstuart · Apr 28, 2020

Will always buy either a genuine one or mahle

as indeed as also mentioned won’t ever skimp on quality filters or engine oil

plus always replace all the oils and filters every year regardless of mileage , even if it was less than a 1.000 mile would still replace everything

RangeRoller dt · Apr 28, 2020

My engine has a canister you open and literally take out the filter bit, so there’s no bull****ing what’s in there.
Blueprint I find cheap and tidy.

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

RangeRoller dt said:
My engine has a canister you open and literally take out the filter bit, so there’s no bull****ing what’s in there.
Blueprint I find cheap and tidy.
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I like being able to see what you're getting.
I've seen YouTube videos where folks take me filters to bits. The difference between some is astounding,

Disco1BFG · Apr 28, 2020

I wouldn't touch Fram or Donaldson filters with your bargepole ..

Had a Fram "filter" delivered for a machine - felt like there was nothing in the box, so I weighed the filter - 280grams ...

There was some garbage on the box about the filter within being a silver standard one or some such - good for 95% filtration of > 25 microns or thereabouts .... IOW, IMHO, absolute crap.

Then I got a genuine one - 700 grams

....

Also, got a Donaldson for a Perkins engine - it was lacking the non return valve, and the big ends were knocking merrily till the pump refilled the filter! Again, Genuine filter, and no more knocking !! (FFS!!!!)

as you mentioned, genuine are less than a tenner, so daft not too IMO. OEM are fine too - both D1's here are using Mahle without issue...

On fuel filters, here's a vid worth watching:-

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

Wonder what's in a petrol filter...

Henry_b · Apr 28, 2020

I cut mine open to check for quality defects, i did run MANN in the Jag and P38 however after cutting them both open i've discovered the Bosch is superior..

Mann.. From the Jag and P38

Mann use a leaf relief spring, and Bosch uses a coil spring..
The Bosch also had more outlets in the cap of the filter..

Oh and the bosch canister was thicker, I can crush the cannister of a Mann filter in my hand, whereas the Bosch is studier!
Or it could be i'm an ape!!

I run bosch on mine

Another thing of note is the pleats on the Mann were quite mushy whereas the Bosch were much firmer...

Amazing...

Cut 'em open!!

bankz5152 · Apr 28, 2020

I like this thread a lot.

Some say im excessive but I change the air, engine oil + filters every 6k. The rest changed every 12k fuel filter yearly.

gstuart · Apr 28, 2020

I also always think of how different oil manufacturers compare

Know where all very fussy when it comes to our landies , but some may just go if it has the correct grade on the side of the bottom that will do

last year , used millers engine oil and mahle engine filter cost me around £70

but at the end of the day I must spend just under £200 on all oils and filters each year but seeing a new engine for mine is around £6-7k

however I think as the landy gets newer the oils and filters become even more apparent

gstuart · Apr 28, 2020

bankz5152 said:
I like this thread a lot.

Some say im excessive but I change the air, engine oil + filters every 6k. The rest changed every 12k fuel filter yearly.

hi mate

Likewise, also enjoy thread like this ,

am the same , only done a few hundred miles and still changed everything , always weigh it up, of a few hundred quid to a new engine of some £6-7k

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

As vehicles and engines in particular age regular maintenance/oil change gets more important.
I'm not going to try and save a few £££ and gamble many £££ on a part/full engine rebuild.
That said i don't see the point in spending double just for a brand name

Henry_b · Apr 28, 2020

kermit_rr said:
As vehicles and engines in particular age regular maintenance/oil change gets more important.
I'm not going to try and save a few £££ and gamble many £££ on a part/full engine rebuild.
That said i don't see the point in spending double just for a brand name

Not just a name

Look up at the Datasheets and compare different oils

You'd be surprised that going for a "brand" can be beneficial

kermit_rr · Apr 28, 2020

Henry_b said:
Not just a name

Look up at the Datasheets and compare different oils

You'd be surprised that going for a "brand" can be beneficial

Yep filters are somewhat black boxes though

neilly · Apr 28, 2020

gstuart said:
correct grade on the side of the bottom that will do

I hope you pay attention to the specs of the oil and not just grade ie 5W30...

Cheers

gstuart · Apr 28, 2020

neilly said:
I hope you pay attention to the specs of the oil and not just grade ie 5W30...

Cheers

oh yes and a very good point , have nearly bought the wrong oil

bankz5152 · Apr 28, 2020

Considering I change so often tend to go for Halfords own 10w/40 semi as advised by Gigglepin

The rest I use Smith n Allan

None of my TD5s have liked fully synth, always leaked after a change. Semi theyre fine hmmmm

neilly · Apr 28, 2020

gstuart said:
oh yes and a very good point , have nearly bought the wrong oil

Can make a big difference to waht is recommended, especially if you have a DPF.

Cheers

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